Author Topic: [83+ ASM] Asm help (Read 16219 times)

kalan_vod · « **Reply #15 on:** April 26, 2006, 09:32:00 am »

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Yeah, it's a little difficult to make a converter that will convert basic<->Asm etc. As it also depends on who programs the converter, they may do a poor job. But in most cases it is just hard to be able to convert it and make it clean, as it has to look at all possibilities..

It's like this. Due to the nature of ASM (things like self modifying code, functions, free form structure), trying to translate the nature of the BASIC code would be inefficient if you only said this should equal that in ASM. Sometimes, depending on the nature of your game, there may be opportunities in ASM to code it a certain way to save space and make it faster. This requires 1337 skills that I do not possess (mainly because I program 68k

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If you want MegaMan Subzero converted to ASM, I suggest you learn ASM your self, because if the nature of the game is mostly action and speed critical, it would be advantageous to learn ASM and give a shot at coding.

I was trying to say it in a similar way, but I think you covered it

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Dragon__lance · « **Reply #16 on:** April 26, 2006, 01:25:00 pm »

I agree, I myself am learning asm currently. It's not that hard if you read through all the tutorials thouroghly. BASIC with Xlib can do anything ASM can do, but only slower.

kalan_vod · « **Reply #17 on:** April 26, 2006, 02:13:00 pm »

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I agree, I myself am learning asm currently. It's not that hard if you read through all the tutorials thouroghly. BASIC with Xlib can do anything ASM can do, but only slower.

Sadly I have seen some Asm games slower than basic + asm libs...

Liazon · « **Reply #18 on:** April 26, 2006, 02:22:00 pm »

Ya, to really make it fast requires experience. There's actually an ASM Optimizations thread on MC. Those guys are hardcore about their ASM.

kalan_vod · « **Reply #19 on:** April 26, 2006, 02:49:00 pm »

I am scared to go in there, too advanced for me...but I try

g28401 · « **Reply #20 on:** April 28, 2006, 05:41:00 pm »

*likes his basic* makes it easy to work in class.

Spellshaper · « **Reply #21 on:** April 29, 2006, 06:49:00 am »

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*likes his basic* makes it easy to work in class.

*Spellshaper