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Re: [Tutorial] Tilemaps in Axe Basic
« Reply #75 on: July 26, 2010, 11:55:31 pm »
Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on April 15, 2010, 10:01:05 pm
Is it supposed to do the following?

Uh...that's not right.  That's only a 2*4 map.  The data was for a 4*4 map.  I think one of the things that is confusing people (especially me) is the numbers used.  If the numbers are all the same (dimension of tiles and map), then we can't tell where those came from.
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Re: [Tutorial] Tilemaps in Axe Basic
« Reply #76 on: July 27, 2010, 12:10:49 am »
hmm... this works on my calculator:

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.A
[11111111->GDB1
[10011001
[10100101
[11111111
[0000000000000000->Pic1
[FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
For(Y,0,3
For(X,0,3
{Y*4+X+GDB1}->A
Pt-On(X*16,Y*8,A/16*8+Pic1
Pt-On(X*16+8,Y*8,A^16*8+Pic1
End
End
DispGraph

edit: i'm not sure which parts would be confusing to people, so i left out anything unnecessary. i'll respond best i can to anyone who posts though
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Re: [Tutorial] Tilemaps in Axe Basic
« Reply #77 on: July 27, 2010, 12:25:29 am »
That same code gives me alternating black and white stripes of 8*32 pixels.  (and there are eight stripes)
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Re: [Tutorial] Tilemaps in Axe Basic
« Reply #78 on: July 27, 2010, 12:33:16 am »
hmm that's partially good, because the map's dimensions match the dimensions you described (8 8x32 stripes means the map is 64 pixels wide by 32 high, divide that by eight (the size of the tiles) and you get 8 tiles wide by 4 tiles high).

i think i found the bug. are you sure that the following line is typed correctly on your calculator?
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Pt-On(X*16+8,Y*8,A^16*8+Pic1

because if you forgot the +8, you end up with alternating lines as you said.
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Re: [Tutorial] Tilemaps in Axe Basic
« Reply #79 on: July 27, 2010, 12:38:51 am »
Oh. wow......
Thanks. this whole thing was driving me crazy (sitting in a Dairy Queen with my calc, no access to a computer, and randomly changing numbers)
Sorry you had to track down the bug.  My mind doesn't seem to work right late at night.
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Re: [Tutorial] Tilemaps in Axe Basic
« Reply #80 on: July 27, 2010, 12:51:32 am »
oh it's no problem. now i'm getting myself started on how to smooth scroll a half byte tilemap...
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Re: [Tutorial] Tilemaps in Axe Basic
« Reply #81 on: July 27, 2010, 10:58:08 am »
Wow, that one was tough.  What you have to do is draw an extra row and column, and then offset them all by the scroll value, and use the scroll value / 16 for the X offset, and the scroll value / 8 for the Y offset.
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Re: [Tutorial] Tilemaps in Axe Basic
« Reply #82 on: July 29, 2010, 03:10:56 am »
It would be nice to have a tutorial on how to do it. Something that is a bit visual with simple examples maybe, and maybe an example with single-byte so people can see the difference. Smooth scrolling is generally not too hard when you get used to modulus (if you redraw the entire tilemap every frame), but I am not sure how it works when using Horiz, variable scrolling speeds (like in Supersonic Ball) or half-bytes. Would it be fast enough for the regular 83+?
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Re: [Tutorial] Tilemaps in Axe Basic
« Reply #83 on: July 31, 2010, 11:50:36 am »
From my experience, it is not fast enough to use on a regular 83+.  It may be feasible, however, to use it in a casual game, where the tilemapping speed has little impact on the gameplay, such as Pokemon.
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Re: [Tutorial] Tilemaps in Axe Basic
« Reply #84 on: August 01, 2010, 12:48:54 pm »
Aaah ok. I guess it would be best to keep for RPGs if done on 83+ then. That said, half-byte scrolling in RPGs is almost a must in RPGs with simpler maps (16 tiles or below, for example), since it decreases the file size considerably
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Re: [Tutorial] Tilemaps in Axe Basic
« Reply #85 on: May 18, 2011, 05:31:06 pm »
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Lbl GT  ; X position in S, Y position in T.  Returns tile
S/7->S  // Swap 7 for the size of your tiles
T/7*7->T  // Yes, I know it is /7*7.  Leave it that way.  Unless you don't have 7x7 tiles, in which case you should change the values accordingly
If S^2
{(S/2)+T+GDB1}^16
Return
End
{(S/2)+T+GDB1}/16
Return
How do you access the value of the tile?
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Re: [Tutorial] Tilemaps in Axe Basic
« Reply #86 on: May 18, 2011, 05:34:43 pm »
Not trying to put Sir down, since he's an awesome coder, but this tutorial is outdated and the last post here was early August.  It may not work with current versions of Axe.

Try this tile mapping tutorial.  ;)
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Re: [Tutorial] Tilemaps in Axe Basic
« Reply #87 on: May 19, 2011, 07:14:25 am »
Who stickied this? It's already listed in the tutorials thread :P
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Re: [Tutorial] Tilemaps in Axe Basic
« Reply #88 on: June 30, 2011, 01:21:13 pm »
This tutorial is outdated, but it still works fine for newer versions of Axe.
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Re: [Tutorial] Tilemaps in Axe Basic
« Reply #89 on: July 17, 2012, 01:24:11 pm »
where is sircmpwn ?  :o
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