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Re: Axe Q&A
« Reply #1635 on: May 06, 2013, 10:16:11 pm »
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It's a compiled language for the 83+/84+ series. What this means is that Axe code gets compiled into machine code using an app. The advantage of using Axe over assembly is the lower learning curve.
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Re: Axe Q&A
« Reply #1636 on: May 07, 2013, 05:03:48 pm »
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Re: Axe Q&A
« Reply #1637 on: May 07, 2013, 09:18:02 pm »
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Re: Axe Q&A
« Reply #1638 on: May 08, 2013, 03:46:22 am »
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Re: Axe Q&A
« Reply #1639 on: May 18, 2013, 01:11:20 pm »
I've seen countless optimizations with this, but never completely understood it myself..

How exactly is hl handled throughout loops? Does For(I,#,#) change it every iteration? Or do all loops leave hl untouched when execution goes back to the start?
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Re: Axe Q&A
« Reply #1640 on: May 18, 2013, 06:38:42 pm »
The line after For(VAR,START,END) will hold the value of END-VAR for the current iteration. You can use this to optimize if you'd like, just keep in mind that this could potentially change in the future.

I can't say I've seen optimizations involving the use of this value... I have, however, made many optimizations using For(CONST), as this doesn't even affect HL. But be wary that For(VAR/EXPR) will load VAR/EXPR into HL at the start of the first iteration, but not after that.
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Re: Axe Q&A
« Reply #1641 on: June 21, 2013, 07:42:56 am »
Can someone explain the conditional comment for me?
Can i use a variable in the conditional comment?
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Re: Axe Q&A
« Reply #1642 on: June 21, 2013, 07:55:49 am »
You can't use a variable in a conditionnal comment. It is described in the readme that the argument must be a constant (or a test involving only constants, which is a constant in some way).

It can be useful for example (other examples can be found but I give this one) if you want to make two versions of your program: one for regular 83+ and one for the 15 MHz calcs. Then just do your code like that:

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XXX→°Model

<put some code here>

...If °Model=83
<put here the code for the regular 83+>
...Else
<put here the code for 15MHz models>
...End

<put some code here>

Then, to compile the 83+ version, replace XXX with 83 and compile, and to compile the 15MHz version, replace XXX with 84 and compile. If °Model=83, only the code for the regular 83+ will be parsed, and the contrary if you put 84.
And since the compiler tests °Model when compiling and not when launching the program, you can't use a variable there.
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Re: Axe Q&A
« Reply #1643 on: June 21, 2013, 08:21:47 am »
Thanks for help! I understand now.. :)

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Appvars
« Reply #1644 on: August 26, 2013, 12:53:03 am »
Alright, I need some help with appvars.  I don't actually have my calc right now, but this is about what my code looks like.
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getcalc("appvMAP,10")->A
For(X,0,9)
0->{A+X}
End
1->{A}
For(X,0,9)
Output(0,0,{X+A}>Dec)
End

Obviously not complete or optimized, I'm just trying to get used to appvars.  My issue is that I've stored 0s and 1s to the appvar, yet it outputs values from between 0 and 255.  Any ideas why its doing this?  I assume I'm either writing to it incorrectly or reading incorrectly, but I can't figure it out.
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Re: Axe Q&A
« Reply #1645 on: August 26, 2013, 01:04:49 am »
Hmm... being able to see the real code could be helpful. I believe there are some copying errors in that code, like the size argument of GetCalc() being inside the quotation marks and the value outputs all overwriting each other. :P But even with these errors fixed, I don't see anything critically wrong that would be causing what you got.
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Re: Axe Q&A
« Reply #1646 on: August 26, 2013, 01:16:31 am »
Hmm... being able to see the real code could be helpful. I believe there are some copying errors in that code, like the size argument of GetCalc() being inside the quotation marks and the value outputs all overwriting each other. :P

If by outputs overwriting eachother you mean they all go to 0,0, than yea they do.  I just stuck a pause 500 in there so I could see each number.  As for the quotation marks, I just realized I didn't have them like that, not sure why I thought I did...
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Re: Axe Q&A
« Reply #1647 on: August 26, 2013, 03:52:18 am »
Also, that doesn't solve any problem, but you may want to check the Fill command out instead of using a For loop to set a bunch of bytes at 0.
Now your code seems to work on Wabbit (once I put the quotes at the right place), I don't see any problem, it displays a 1 then zeroes.
Also be sure that the appv is the appv token, and not a "a" followed by a "p", ...
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Re: Axe Q&A
« Reply #1648 on: August 26, 2013, 06:13:32 pm »
Also, that doesn't solve any problem, but you may want to check the Fill command out instead of using a For loop to set a bunch of bytes at 0.
Now your code seems to work on Wabbit (once I put the quotes at the right place), I don't see any problem, it displays a 1 then zeroes.
Also be sure that the appv is the appv token, and not a "a" followed by a "p", ...

*Facedesk*. Realized in math today that I had been reading the code as I thought I wrote it, not as I actually did, silly typos fixed, and it works well now.  Thanks for attempting to help though :P

On an unrelated note, is there a better way to handle input from getkey than a bunch if if/elseif? 
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Re: Axe Q&A
« Reply #1649 on: August 28, 2013, 12:54:17 pm »
Yes with a For loop.