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Re: Bluescale
« Reply #45 on: October 13, 2010, 08:18:29 pm »
O.O That is something you have got to put in a readme if you actually go through with this :P

Otherwise, this is awesome.
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Re: Bluescale
« Reply #46 on: October 13, 2010, 09:19:24 pm »
yeah, with this i wanna see if I can manipulate BLOD to my advantage to see if I can make a harmless bluescale game maybe?  :D
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Re: Bluescale
« Reply #47 on: October 13, 2010, 09:23:24 pm »
not to discourage you but it sounds unlikely that it'll work.  But I wish you luck anyways! :D

Just don't harm your calc too much when experimenting :(
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Re: Bluescale
« Reply #48 on: October 13, 2010, 09:53:58 pm »
no dont worry. Like I said i might buy another calc to experiment with this. Only if I could figure out how it works first of all.. Iambian, shmibs, thepenguin, calc84, and justcause are the only ones that seem to have an idea on this that I know of.
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Re: Bluescale
« Reply #49 on: October 13, 2010, 10:12:19 pm »
Nah, there are more. One way of achieving it, I believe, is by like rapidly adjusting the contrast. Quigibo, I believe, did a test on it.
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Re: Bluescale
« Reply #50 on: October 13, 2010, 10:26:38 pm »
Quote from: Snake X on October 13, 2010, 09:19:24 pm
yeah, with this i wanna see if I can manipulate BLOD to my advantage to see if I can make a harmless bluescale game maybe?  :D

Like I said, the BLOD are the LCD itself failing. But the bluescale achieved by rapidly changing the contrast probably works on the fact that the monochrome black isn't actually black, but a dark purplish color. If you throw a little white (transparent) into it, then it would appear bluish. At least I think, anyway. If so, then it would probably be relatively harmless.
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Re: Bluescale
« Reply #51 on: October 13, 2010, 10:57:56 pm »
Quote from: Qwerty.55 on October 13, 2010, 10:26:38 pm
Like I said, the BLOD are the LCD itself failing. But the bluescale achieved by rapidly changing the contrast probably works on the fact that the monochrome black isn't actually black, but a dark purplish color. If you throw a little white (transparent) into it, then it would appear bluish.

If this was true, then ordinary grayscale programs would also appear blue on this model of calculator. What I suspect is actually happening here is that the LCD driver has a bug where rapid contrast changes are somehow causing it to feed excessive voltages into the LCD just like the infamous "test mode" (though not as bad as that)
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Re: Bluescale
« Reply #52 on: October 13, 2010, 10:59:43 pm »
Hmm, our school library checks calcs out to students ;)

I don't want to pay $85 for replacement, though...

EDIT: Personally, I think whatever turns out blue on a calc is probably bad for it :P
« Last Edit: October 13, 2010, 11:06:20 pm by Deep Thought »
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Re: Bluescale
« Reply #53 on: October 13, 2010, 11:16:20 pm »
Quote from: Goplat on October 13, 2010, 10:57:56 pm
Quote from: Qwerty.55 on October 13, 2010, 10:26:38 pm
Like I said, the BLOD are the LCD itself failing. But the bluescale achieved by rapidly changing the contrast probably works on the fact that the monochrome black isn't actually black, but a dark purplish color. If you throw a little white (transparent) into it, then it would appear bluish.

If this was true, then ordinary grayscale programs would also appear blue on this model of calculator. What I suspect is actually happening here is that the LCD driver has a bug where rapid contrast changes are somehow causing it to feed excessive voltages into the LCD just like the infamous "test mode" (though not as bad as that)

Perhaps, but bor the 84+ SE, when you completely black out the screen, to me it looks ever so slightly purplish. It's only the full black, though.

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Re: Bluescale
« Reply #54 on: October 13, 2010, 11:18:00 pm »
Yeah, I noticed that when I turn set Shade(63), for example. But it's not that blue D:
« Last Edit: October 13, 2010, 11:18:10 pm by Deep Thought »
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Re: Bluescale
« Reply #55 on: October 13, 2010, 11:18:57 pm »
maybe ask TI-Cares?

jk  :P

I really don't think its a good thing though
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Re: Bluescale
« Reply #56 on: October 13, 2010, 11:19:58 pm »
If we asked i think it would reinforce their opinion that calc programming is bad.
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Re: Bluescale
« Reply #57 on: October 13, 2010, 11:36:00 pm »
Quote from: guy6020665 on October 13, 2010, 06:18:54 pm
Quote from: ASHBAD_ALVIN on October 13, 2010, 06:09:48 pm
Like this total bullshit:


NO WAY THAT THIS ACTUALLY WORKS!!! The video was very well done though.

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Lol so fake but much better done than the other Halo video I saw somewhere before.
Quote from: Goplat on October 13, 2010, 10:57:56 pm
Quote from: Qwerty.55 on October 13, 2010, 10:26:38 pm
Like I said, the BLOD are the LCD itself failing. But the bluescale achieved by rapidly changing the contrast probably works on the fact that the monochrome black isn't actually black, but a dark purplish color. If you throw a little white (transparent) into it, then it would appear bluish.

If this was true, then ordinary grayscale programs would also appear blue on this model of calculator. What I suspect is actually happening here is that the LCD driver has a bug where rapid contrast changes are somehow causing it to feed excessive voltages into the LCD just like the infamous "test mode" (though not as bad as that)
That might explain it. When turning the calc OFF from an asm program like MirageOS or when it APD's, the screen quickly goes dark for a centisecond or something then turns off. On certain models you even see a blue line appearing. I believe the later occurs on all 68K calcs.
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Re: Bluescale
« Reply #58 on: October 14, 2010, 12:28:18 am »
Hehe, I've been playing that Halo game for years now on my 83+... :P
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Re: Bluescale
« Reply #59 on: October 14, 2010, 12:31:41 am »
Quote from: Silver Shadow on October 14, 2010, 12:28:18 am
Hehe, I've been playing that Halo game for years now on my 83+... :P

Wasn't it originally released for the TI-81? http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/431/43140.html
« Last Edit: October 14, 2010, 09:38:02 am by Deep Thought »
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