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What can be done in Axe in 3D ?
« on: December 17, 2012, 03:49:28 pm »
Hi guys,

After WiredWorks, I've got pretty interested in 3D stuffs, so I wondered what could be done in Axe which is related to 3D.

I have already tested vertices with WiredWorks, raycasting is also already done (by several people), so what remains ? Do you think it's possible to do voxel, and if yes, do you have a tutorial for that (I googled it and didn't found) ?

Btw, you can just enumerate all the 3D techniques that comes to your mind :P
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Re: What can be done in Axe in 3D ?
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2012, 04:12:00 pm »
4D!!!!

Nah joking, no i don't really know, maybe it should be an interesting idea to build a game around a 3D engine...? A little game...?
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Re: What can be done in Axe in 3D ?
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2012, 04:13:24 pm »
A lot of them aren't feasible with higher accuracy and faster speeds. Still, you should take WiredWorks further and see if you can add flood-filling or textures for faces.
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Re: What can be done in Axe in 3D ?
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2012, 04:15:15 pm »
Yeah I could do that, but the question is "what 3D ?" Raycasting (I prefer not), voxel, others ? (yeah I'm mainly asking for these "others" and what they can be).
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Re: What can be done in Axe in 3D ?
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2012, 04:17:50 pm »
Hmmm idk :/
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Re: What can be done in Axe in 3D ?
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2012, 04:23:07 pm »
@leafy oh, didn't see your post when answering :P (thanks android).

I figured that, but I'm afraid that I don't have the required math skills to do that :/ but if you can link a tutorial you think helpful, please do and I'll see what can be done (yeah, I love tutorials).
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Re: What can be done in Axe in 3D ?
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2012, 04:23:58 pm »
Raycasting is possible with Runer112's axiom (unreleased). He also made a pure Axe raycaster before, which ran at decent speed, but not fast enough for a game like Gemini. There were a few other community raycasters, but most didn't come to fruition it seems.

As for true 3D I don't know.
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Re: What can be done in Axe in 3D ?
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2012, 05:53:14 pm »
Id say just experiment. Any 3D is good 3D!
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Re: What can be done in Axe in 3D ?
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2012, 02:22:33 am »
Yeah, of course I should experiment, but I don't know what D: I'm asking people for the 3D techniques they know just because I don't know any.
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Re: What can be done in Axe in 3D ?
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2012, 02:24:02 am »
Just don't try to port nDoom to z88dk/SDCC C. :P
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Re: What can be done in Axe in 3D ?
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2012, 02:27:30 am »
Raycasting, mode 7, and isometric 3d should all be decent options.
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Re: What can be done in Axe in 3D ?
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2012, 02:39:56 am »
Like I said, raycasting is already done, like Runer112 said on IRC :

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Runer112    I do not believe mode 7 is a viable option for Axe
Runer112   Axe is not very good at drawing pixel by pixel
Runer112   especially with crazy math involved

And I already tried some isometric stuffs without that great of success.
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Re: What can be done in Axe in 3D ?
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2012, 03:26:20 am »
I think good speed in Axe other than maybe raycasting (unless TheMachine02's game isn't raycasting) is virtually impossible unless someone writes a 3D axiom.

That said, how dare you say that to tr1p1ea XiiR3CR34T10N? He has been doing TI-83+ ASM for 9 years (he's the guy who made xLIB and Desolate (and is remaking it in 8 LV grayscale), so he knows very well what he is talking about regarding calc limitations. I'M not saying you don't, but he has done calc programming for far longer than you to know what is possible or not on a calc. And even if he doesn't do Axe, he knows Matrefeytontias is very experienced in it (he even got featured programs on ticalc.org) and maybe he could manage to achieve something fast enough. It's hard to do anything complex if you have only coded Axe for a month or two.
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Re: What can be done in Axe in 3D ?
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2012, 03:38:58 am »
It was a joke Implying the inexperience of me. I did not mean to offend anyone.
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Re: What can be done in Axe in 3D ?
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2012, 03:42:48 am »
Ok be careful with that, since sarcasm doesn't translate well to text medium (unless you use smileys or are really sarcastic)
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