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Re: FX-CP400 (ClassPad 400): Who got one?
« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2013, 01:38:27 am »
There's basically always a way. It's just a matter of time, motivation, skills and also number of users. I remember about a group of users pwning, after 20 years of trying, some weird platform which had always resisted until then.

The fx-CP400 is less powerful, and will always be far less widespread, than the Nspire series, due to the relative market share of manufacturers. The Nspire series has always garnered low user interest compared to say, gaming consoles... so we can't be optimistic about development on the fx-CP400. Its Classpad 300/330 predecessors haven't been overly popular due to slowness and price tag, and Casio is repeating the mistakes, only with a color screen.
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Re: FX-CP400 (ClassPad 400): Who got one?
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2013, 01:41:29 am »
IIRC the original CP models were not popular because of their bans in tests (back then, touch screen models were banned, but I'm unsure about now. The CAS didn't help either). ASM/C programs would most likely be very fast, though.
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Re: FX-CP400 (ClassPad 400): Who got one?
« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2013, 01:45:16 am »
Classpad 300/330/400 native code programs should indeed be fast in relative terms if compared to TI-Z80, or to a lesser extent, TI-68k native code programs, but usually worse than Nspire (where native code programs are becoming a thing of the past) and most of all, future Prime native code programs.
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Re: FX-CP400 (ClassPad 400): Who got one?
« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2013, 01:40:12 pm »
Quote from: Lionel Debroux on September 17, 2013, 01:45:16 am
Classpad 300/330/400 native code programs should indeed be fast in relative terms if compared to TI-Z80, or to a lesser extent, TI-68k native code programs, but usually worse than Nspire (where native code programs are becoming a thing of the past)

Do you mean that we've lost the TI-Nspire battle and won't be able to bring native support back with the new hardware and OS?
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Re: FX-CP400 (ClassPad 400): Who got one?
« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2013, 03:20:09 am »
Well, for now ExtendeD is working on Ndless 3.2.4, but will it be successful and will TI have finally won the war with OS 3.6?
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Re: FX-CP400 (ClassPad 400): Who got one?
« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2013, 05:25:15 am »
Well, if whatever exploits he/they find on 3.2.4 still work on later versions, it'll be awesome :)
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Re: FX-CP400 (ClassPad 400): Who got one?
« Reply #21 on: September 22, 2013, 04:14:33 am »
I think that exploits shouldn't be released before OS 3.6 is out. ;)
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Re: FX-CP400 (ClassPad 400): Who got one?
« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2013, 04:24:26 am »
Clearly, exploits (should there by any) need to be kept under wraps until some time after OS 3.6. We know from the general experience of communities fighting against the manufacturer, and also from our own experience (Nleash), that it's the appropriate thing to do.
Sitting on a 0-day (which later formed the basis of Ndless 1.7/2.0, i.e. the second generation) made Nleash possible, in a mere couple weeks, in the middle of the '2010 summer. That was a rousing success for users and programmers, and conversely, a big slap in TI's face :)
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