Author Topic: Heresy: The Other Side of Calc Programming (Read 18752 times)

necro · « **Reply #30 on:** August 09, 2007, 04:55:00 pm »

I agree ti needs to step it up. I want a game boy color equivelent lcd and a 1gig flash drive...for $100

AaroneusTheGreat · « **Reply #31 on:** August 09, 2007, 05:15:00 pm »

That might be pushing it, with the cost of Flash ROM production on the rise. (I heard it on NPR, it's expected to drop soon though) The color lcd might be hard to sell to them also because of the practical application aspect. I like your thinking though, are you going to email them with your ideas?

necro · « **Reply #32 on:** August 09, 2007, 07:39:00 pm »

No...I want to make my own calculator to compete with theirs...muwahaha. Seriously, they don't care what we think, to them a clock speed diffrence and a very low capacity flash card are "competitive". That said, I am much better with programming than electronics as I don't realy have time to learn to much about electronics.

Oh, and as far as flash goes, bought in bulk 1 gig should be less than 10 bucks, and color screens are pretty comon and probably under 10 dollars to. Everything else to would not cost to much, and if you added a cart port then you could make money selling games.

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #33 on:** August 10, 2007, 02:17:00 am »

i think ppl emailed them in the past, but they seems to want to make their calc more and more so it wont allow gaming, or almost *cough*TI Nspire*cough*

necro · « **Reply #34 on:** August 10, 2007, 06:58:00 am »

yeah, considering what a pain running progs in the 89 is (at least, IMO)...I think itd be cool to make a calc to compete with their's that is designed with development in mind

AaroneusTheGreat · « **Reply #35 on:** August 10, 2007, 08:57:00 am »

Well if I ever got really good at building electronics then perhaps we could get a team together to build a calc. not a very good chance of that happening though.

EDIT:

Wow I just looked up the HP50g's specs and it has a 75MHz ARM9 processor.

Liazon · « **Reply #36 on:** August 10, 2007, 09:18:00 am »

nspire also has an ARM iirc

@necro: if you don't like typing in the name of the program and "()", then you could always use PreOS, which kinda looks like ION/MOS.

AaroneusTheGreat · « **Reply #37 on:** August 10, 2007, 09:45:00 am »

Reading about the Nspire, I came across this http://education.ti.com/guidebooks/ti-nspire_cas/TI-NspireCAS_Guide_Part1_EN.pdf it shows a picture of the memory capacity and it's 27.8 MB! o.o

wow the nspire sounds like it really could be a good platform for development, actually. Why did DJ imply that the Nspire would not support gaming? Is there some kind of ASM program protection? because that has not stopped the TI community in the past.

It even has a reset button! Wouldnt that come in handy if you crash your calc?

Ranman · « **Reply #38 on:** August 10, 2007, 09:54:00 am »

It probably will not stop the community from hacking into it.

But... That will take some time.

It would have been better if TI would have just made it programmable and developer friendly.

AaroneusTheGreat · « **Reply #39 on:** August 10, 2007, 10:00:00 am »

So does it even run native basic programs? or is it just a calculator with fancy features and no programming?

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #40 on:** August 10, 2007, 11:18:00 am »

I said nspire wasnt much for gaming because apparently it doesnt have much programming capabilities implemented in it (such as TI-BASIC on the 89). I even remember back in fall people telling me there was no Draw commands on the nspire, meaning if a basic game was made on it it would have to be kept on homescreen using ASCII text sprites.

I agree with the fact that it could be changed easily though. Some just need to write a basic like interpreter to code on the calc, or just a c compiler like TIGCC, and find a way to install the programs made on it and there we go

If you think everything I say is false, this means I got misinformed badly by everyone else

AaroneusTheGreat · « **Reply #41 on:** August 10, 2007, 06:20:00 pm »

Sounds about right. Dang, they really should have thought the whole programming aspect through more thoroughly. 27.8 MB of storage space and that ARM processor running at ~ 75 MHZ would mean some really amazing games.

With the operating system running I wonder what the actual program run clock speed is.

Imagine, if the processor was just half again as fast as the 89Ti then a quake like 3D engine wouldn't be out of the question any longer. Neither would a full screen 3D engine.

What is the MHz speed of the Motorola 68k anyways? surely it's not any where near 75 MHz.

Does it support Apps? If so then the problem of development may be solved right there. Just hack an app to run code in the form of a native text document and there you go. Instant games. I hear there's a "document" editor on there. So perhaps there's hope yet.

JonimusPrime · « **Reply #42 on:** August 11, 2007, 03:07:00 am »

Well I belive it has 84 compatibility so hopefully some of those games will work. but that may be only basic games/programs.

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #43 on:** August 11, 2007, 11:04:00 am »

89 HW1: 10 MHz
92 HW1: 10 MHz
92+ HW1: 10 MHz
92+ HW2: 12 MHz
v200: 12 MHz
v400: 666 MHz
89t (HW3/4): 12 MHz

AaroneusTheGreat · « **Reply #44 on:** August 11, 2007, 11:41:00 am »

HAHA! Voyage 400. I remember that Ticalc joke. That would be majorly cool though.

Hey, I've been trying to find a good HP emulator and ROM for the 50g or 49 series. The ROMs are freely distributable according to HP's license but I can't seem to find any. Can anyone help me out? I want to see what the HP calcs offer.

Author Topic: Heresy: The Other Side of Calc Programming (Read 18752 times)

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