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Should I buy a Casio 9750 or 9860 or stick withmy Fx 570ES?
« on: September 04, 2013, 11:56:04 am »
Hello, this is my first post here. I'm from Argentina and I'm studying engineering. Currently, I'm using a Casio Fx 570ES. So far this calculator has been enough and I don't know of anyone in my school  who had needed a powerful calculator to get the degree.
As far as I've seen about this calculators, I would find pretty handy the extra memory to store more conversion factors or constants. Even though I don't know how the programming tools work, I think I could find a way to store for example  long formulas, right? I will not need graphics tools at all (just regression to calculate interpolation in tables), Stats, equation solver (especially for 3 unknown), integrals, derivatives functions are important.

So guys, what do you think? should I buy one of those calculators or my Fx570ES should be enough?

thank you!
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Re: Should I buy a Casio 9750 or 9860 or stick withmy Fx 570ES?
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2013, 12:00:16 pm »
Hello alc112, welcome to Omnimaga! Not knowing to much about either calculator, I can't say. From what I hear though, Engineers usually like Calculators with a CAS. Mainly the HP 50G or the TI-89.
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Re: Should I buy a Casio 9750 or 9860 or stick withmy Fx 570ES?
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2013, 12:09:05 pm »
The good thing with the 9750 series is that it would allow you to create programs to automate some of your math tasks. The program editor can also be used to store formulas and notes, but make sure that it is allowed at math tests before doing so. I'm unsure if the calculator has an equation solver since it has been a long while since I have used mine.

In any case, if your school don't require more than your current calculator, then you should be fine with it. Someone who got a FX-9750G series would have to confirm if it features everything you want that you mentionned, though.

How much does that calculator cost where you live by the way? Over here when it's on sale it isn't that much more expensive than a scientific calculator (in Canada, the 9750G+ model was $25 while the 9750GII model is $50-60), but outside USA and Canada Casio calcs are sometimes very expensive.
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Re: Should I buy a Casio 9750 or 9860 or stick withmy Fx 570ES?
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2013, 12:15:41 pm »
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Re: Should I buy a Casio 9750 or 9860 or stick withmy Fx 570ES?
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2013, 12:16:26 pm »
Except that those calcs are at least $60 higher than the 9750G.
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Re: Should I buy a Casio 9750 or 9860 or stick withmy Fx 570ES?
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2013, 12:17:32 pm »
Then buy a TI-83 Plus.fr USB from France! :)
It's exactly like a TI-84 Plus Silver Edition! ;)
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Re: Should I buy a Casio 9750 or 9860 or stick withmy Fx 570ES?
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2013, 12:17:42 pm »
Well, a second handed 84+ is not that expensive (here around €40-60). ;)

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Quote from: critor on September 04, 2013, 12:17:32 pm
Then buy a TI-83 Plus.fr USB from France! :)
It's exactly like a TI-84 Plus Silver Edition! ;)
BTW I saw it in Auchan yesterday for €70. O.O with the €10 offer that makes €60. *.*
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Re: Should I buy a Casio 9750 or 9860 or stick withmy Fx 570ES?
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2013, 12:21:45 pm »
Quote from: critor on September 04, 2013, 12:17:32 pm
Then buy a TI-83 Plus.fr USB from France! :)
It's exactly like a TI-84 Plus Silver Edition! ;)
As I said, those are about $60 higher than the 9750GII. I don't know about Argentina, but in Canada, an FX-9750GII costs $59.99 (sometimes $39.99 on sale) while a TI-83 Plus costs $129.99 (sometimes $109.99 on sale) and a TI-84 Plus $149.99 (sometimes $119.99 on sale). Most international sellers don't ship outside their respective countries or continent and the few that does, especially Europe sellers, charges close to $50 for shipping.
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Re: Should I buy a Casio 9750 or 9860 or stick withmy Fx 570ES?
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2013, 12:47:19 pm »
The 9860 is 230 USd and the 9750 is 175 usd plus a shipping of more or less 15 USD but I will buy in Amazon International. The estimate final cost (taxes an duties included) are 128.48 for the 9860GII and 87.80 USD for the 9750GII.
I was checking the TIs models but I don't think I will get used very quickly and for example the key to write 10^n is missing and I use it very frequently.
thanks a lot for the replies so far :)

edit: this two calculator hvve the functions I need. I mean, the are far better than my current one which is able to do almost all I want (except programming, extra memory and graphing)
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Re: Should I buy a Casio 9750 or 9860 or stick withmy Fx 570ES?
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2013, 12:54:19 pm »
Darn, prices are insane in those countries x.x
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Re: Should I buy a Casio 9750 or 9860 or stick withmy Fx 570ES?
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2013, 02:44:24 am »
Quote from: alc112 on September 04, 2013, 12:47:19 pm
I was checking the TIs models but I don't think I will get used very quickly and for example the key to write 10^n is missing and I use it very frequently.
thanks a lot for the replies so far :)
Hmmm, the graphing Casio calcs are way different than the scientific ones (though TI ones don't ressemble them much). Also 10^n does exist on every calc.

Quote from: alc112 on September 04, 2013, 12:47:19 pm
edit: this two calculator hvve the functions I need. I mean, the are far better than my current one which is able to do almost all I want (except programming, extra memory and graphing)
Again TI calcs are as good as Casio ones if not better IMHO. Though keep in mind I'm not forcing you to get a TI calc, just that I prefer them. ;)
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Re: Should I buy a Casio 9750 or 9860 or stick withmy Fx 570ES?
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2013, 05:28:00 am »
I got many calcs, most Casios but some TIses, and here is my opinion about monochrome ones:
With the Casio, the only advantage IMHO is the C SDKs, but that won't help doing math. THey have a quite good UI, enough intuitive. THeir bigger scrren (the monochromes one) can help seeing the graphs/stats.
THe best monochrome Casio simple calc for math is obviously the Graph100+, way outdated but still have a CAS. Except the Graph100+ there is the Classpad, more expensive and powerful, and has a touchpad screen and a CAS.

THe TIses are a bit less intuitiv, but when you get the grasp, it's quite easy to get fast some formulas. THey don't have a CAS ofr the 83/84/5, but the 89/92/VOyager are powerful, easy to use and have a well done CAS.
THe best TI calc for maths is obviously the 89+ or 92/voyager if you prefer having a full alphabetical keyboard.

FOr the monochrome ones the best calc for math for long term studies are the 89/92/Voyager. THey are powerful, simple, and quite useful for long math studies.
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Re: Re: Should I buy a Casio 9750 or 9860 or stick withmy Fx 570ES?
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2013, 12:09:42 pm »
What I like about Casio calcs other than the AFX/g100/CP models is that the interface and button layout has been identical since 1990, even on the PRIZM. As a result it is not too hard to switch from a graphical model to another.

However, the menu names are confusing, so finding your commands can be hard. Also BASIC is much slower than on TI calcs (although it's not that bad on the FX-9860G/g85 models)
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Re: Should I buy a Casio 9750 or 9860 or stick withmy Fx 570ES?
« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2013, 12:35:48 pm »
Wait, the AFX and the others don' thave the same UI. Some functions are placed womewhere else, like plot and equality functions...
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Re: Should I buy a Casio 9750 or 9860 or stick withmy Fx 570ES?
« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2013, 05:44:23 pm »
Yeah the AFX has different menus, hence why I said "other than the AFX/g100/CP". The AFX menus are more like the ones on the HP 39gII and HP Prime calculators, as well as the OS 2.55MP keypad shortcuts. I should probably have mentionned the FX-7000g as well lol. And yeah just to tell how much cheaper some Casio calcs are, here are the prices of calcs in Canada from lowest to highest (before sale):

FX-9750GII: $60
FX-9860GII: $90
FX-9860GIIs: $90
FX-cg10: $130
TI-83 Plus: $130
TI-84 Plus: $143
TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition: $160
Classpad 400: $170
TI-Nspire CX: $170
TI-89 Titanium: $180
TI-Nspire CAS Touchpad: $180
TI-Nspire CX CAS: $200
HP 50g: $208

By the way, anyone knows what's the FX-9860GIIs? I never heard about it before ???
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