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Re: Calc better than Prizm possible
« Reply #30 on: October 26, 2012, 10:18:08 pm »
Alright, I want to start on the project, but I need to get a kick-start fund NOT FROM DONATIONS. My reason for this is because someone could scam others using this scheme, so I'm using the leaf-blower to earn some cash to do this.
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Re: Calc better than Prizm possible
« Reply #32 on: October 26, 2012, 10:21:51 pm »
Quote from: Qwerty.55 on October 26, 2012, 10:20:30 pm
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Re: Calc better than Prizm possible
« Reply #33 on: October 27, 2012, 10:11:52 am »
Hey, I think this would be the coolest calculator
Have a camera, apps, better BASIC programming, and touchscreen, as well as a stylus support. Touchscreen would have some other commands, like swiping goes to the next page, two or more fingers going to the middle is the same as control up to go to page sorter.
You can take a picture of a parabola, then find a graph that fits it best, or take data with the vernier software, then use the stylus and a ruler to plot the best fit line.
I think that would be awesome, but of course I don’t know how to do any of that.
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Re: Calc better than Prizm possible
« Reply #34 on: October 27, 2012, 12:05:27 pm »
Wouldn't that be called a smartphone with a math engine ? :D
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Re: Calc better than Prizm possible
« Reply #35 on: October 27, 2012, 12:09:57 pm »
Quote from: adriweb on October 27, 2012, 12:05:27 pm
Wouldn't that be called a smartphone with a math engine ? :D
Nope. A smartcalc :P

Quote from: Rhombicuboctahedron on October 27, 2012, 10:11:52 am
You can take a picture of a parabola, then find a graph that fits it best.
Now I imagine the question at the exam: "find the equation of this parabola" :P
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Re: Calc better than Prizm possible
« Reply #36 on: October 27, 2012, 12:51:09 pm »
Quote from: Qwerty.55 on October 26, 2012, 10:20:30 pm
http://www.kickstarter.com/
KickStarter is generally for 70%+ projects. In fact, rules forbid you from posting a project that is not "solid" yet - only pictures of prototypes are allowed, not mockups or renderings. You will not get a single supporter until you have a working product that just needs polishing. If you really need money, I suggest Indiegogo for raising money.

A few comments about this project:
1) Cheating
I'm not going to try to be nice here - cheating on the SAT (or attempting to) is stupid. Really, really, stupid. You're gaining an unfair advantage against me and others who have taken the SAT fairly. If you got a higher score than me from cheating, I or some other person might not get into my/his/her favorite college. Furthermore, cheating makes no sense. If you don't know it, you don't know it. Once you get into college, if you've cheated, you will almost immediately fail high level classes.

As for making a calculator, do you really think CollegeBoard/ACT is stupid? They manually approve calculators each year, and I don't think they will smile when they see that you've tried to sneak in a QWERTY keyboard. Or any of your "clever" ideas to work around their regulations.

Trust me, cheating is NOT worth it. If your only goal is to make a calculator to cheat with, I don't even want to see you in the SAT testing site. Colleges have ZERO tolerance for cheating in any way, shape, or form. If you cheat, and you're lucky, you can get a hand slap. Most of the time, it results in expulsion.

If you're building a calculator for FOSS(+HW) reasons, I'm very happy to support this project. With enough time and inspiration, you can probably build a better calc than I (OTCalc) or any others have tried. But DON'T build it for cheating. Not worth it.

2) Android
You're just begging for the SAT guys to ban your calculator, eh? :P Android is a smartphone OS - it does not belong inside a calculator. It needs a touchscreen for it to be really useful, and touchscreens are almost certainly banned by testing organizations. Furthermore, Android isn't exactly a platform for that kind of development. You shouldn't be sending email, be on Facebook, etc. using your calculator (or at least, not in such an obvious way).

My suggestion: go with just simple ol' Linux. The Angstrom Distro is a very nice platform to start with. If you want fancy animated effects, SDL (or Clutter) can be installed and used. GUI? Qt or GTK. CAS engine? Too many to count. You have an infinite range of options, but definitely start with something simple.

3) Feasibility
What are you prototyping on? What's your target hardware? (CPU? RAM?) What's your target price? Who's your target audience? Those are very big questions that I haven't heard you answer yet. Hardware always comes before software. If you don't develop the hardware, the only places the software will run on are your computer, or your development board.
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Re: Calc better than Prizm possible
« Reply #37 on: October 27, 2012, 01:31:20 pm »
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Wouldn't that be called a smartphone with a math engine ?
I would be very willing to by a smartphone or moreover a tablet if it was completely math oriented.
If there was a tablet that opened up with these apps, and had quite a few other things, then I would love it. But currently, the math apps that I have seen (for the ipod touch at least) aren’t very good, cost, and you have to exit out of the app one just to find the app with the other part of the question.
Also, sometimes buttons are pretty nice, as aposed to entirely touch screen.

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I googled, and apparently cheating on an SAT doesn’t do much more than cancel your scores, but if you cheat in school, you will get a zero on the test and disciplinary punishment. If you cheat in college, you get expelled, and probably won’t be able to get into much more than a community college, and the fact that you cheated might show up on your resume forever.
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Re: Calc better than Prizm possible
« Reply #38 on: October 27, 2012, 03:00:33 pm »
Quote from: alberthrocks on October 27, 2012, 12:51:09 pm
If you're building a calculator for FOSS(+HW) reasons, I'm very happy to support this project. With enough time and inspiration, you can probably build a better calc than I (OTCalc) or any others have tried. But DON'T build it for cheating. Not worth it.


What happened to OTCalc?
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Re: Calc better than Prizm possible
« Reply #39 on: October 27, 2012, 04:27:18 pm »
Quote from: Rhombicuboctahedron on October 27, 2012, 01:31:20 pm
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I googled, and apparently cheating on an SAT doesn’t do much more than cancel your scores, but if you cheat in school, you will get a zero on the test and disciplinary punishment. If you cheat in college, you get expelled, and probably won’t be able to get into much more than a community college, and the fact that you cheated might show up on your resume forever.
It's very likely that colleges will see that cheating and reject you, so it's still pretty bad.

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Quote from: alberthrocks on October 27, 2012, 12:51:09 pm
If you're building a calculator for FOSS(+HW) reasons, I'm very happy to support this project. With enough time and inspiration, you can probably build a better calc than I (OTCalc) or any others have tried. But DON'T build it for cheating. Not worth it.


What happened to OTCalc?
Lack of time and skills led me to finally close development of OTCalc. It was great while it lasted, though. Right now, I'm taking an electronics course so that if I ever conjure up motivation for OTCalc, I'd have the skills to make it. :)
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Re: Calc better than Prizm possible
« Reply #40 on: December 04, 2012, 06:37:16 pm »
I'm sooo sorry I haven't gotten a prototype yet, I'm just not making enough money. I really want to start working on this. Unfortunately indiegogo requires a minimum goal of $500 and I only need about $100 to get the project started and I don't think $500 will be reached and also, I don't want to rip anyone off. If you think that the $500 goal is fine, I'll consider it.

PS. About kickstarter, it requires a minimum age of 18 and I'm still 15 so I'm immediately disqualified from that one. Luckily, indiegogo has no minimum age.

Reply to Rhombicuboctahedron: Sorry, but stylus is not allowed on SATs. I'll probably include a touchscreen, but if you want a pen, you'll need to get it separately (Touchscreens are allowed, styluses are not)

PSS: Do you know where I can find a calculator keyboard that connects to raspberry pi? I'm also thinking of locking down the OS due to popular demand. You will still be able to bypass it by finding the Easter-egg (or flashing a new ROM of course) but at stock, it'll contain plenty of math apps, and will be able to install apks through file explorer (because all current calcs can install apps so there's no bad in having this feature) , but I will lock wifi and hide it somewhere to prevent the use of facebook and stuff. (There very likely will be root as well)
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