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Re: Casio Prizm already for sale???
« Reply #75 on: April 04, 2011, 01:49:27 pm »
Wow and I thought Canada was bad... it's insane, it's even worse than Australia too! I got my Prizm for $139 online with shipping included, but I'm fairly sure where I live, if it's ever sold in Canada it will be between $149.99 and $159.99. That said, it isn't too bad considering a 84+SE here is $176.78.

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Re: Casio Prizm already for sale???
« Reply #76 on: April 04, 2011, 01:54:41 pm »
an 84+SE here is $176.78.
Canadian dollars? Isn't that like 183 USD?

Wow...... And I thought the local collage bookstore charging $190 for a TI-89 Titanium was insane. (I bought mine for $50 used at a second hand store)

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Re: Casio Prizm already for sale???
« Reply #77 on: April 04, 2011, 02:15:50 pm »
Yes but stores kept prices as if the canadian dollar was still $0.79 USD, to make extra money.

Over here here are the lowest calc prices:

TI-73: Not sold
TI-83 Plus: $129.99 (Although when school starts it's between $89 and $100)
TI-84 Plus: $149
TI-84 Plus Silver Edition: $177
TI-Nspire: $185 (used to cost $160 then a year later $170... you could tell their sales were poor)
TI-Nspire CAS: Not sold
TI-89 Titanium: $187
Voyage 200: Not sold
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Re: Casio Prizm already for sale???
« Reply #78 on: April 04, 2011, 02:25:49 pm »
Do they sell the HP-50g in Canada? My TI calcs are okay for basic math, but for a serious calculus course nothing can beat the HP-50g.

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Re: Casio Prizm already for sale???
« Reply #79 on: April 04, 2011, 02:27:21 pm »
Except an actual computer ;)

Here's something from HP's site:

http://www.hp.com/calculators/resellers/canada.html
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Re: Casio Prizm already for sale???
« Reply #80 on: April 04, 2011, 02:29:26 pm »
Do they sell the HP-50g in Canada? My TI calcs are okay for basic math, but for a serious calculus course nothing can beat the HP-50g.
Nah they no longer sells HP/Casio calcs. Back in 2002 I remember they had a blue HP graphing calc model I forgot the number of, they also had the CFX-9850G family calcs, the algebra FX and another cheaper casio model. In 2007 they had the $25 Casion FX-9750G but they got discontinued over here.

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Re: Casio Prizm already for sale???
« Reply #81 on: April 04, 2011, 02:33:43 pm »
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Except an actual computer ;)
True, but I've yet to see a class where you can use a laptop on a test.

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Here's something from HP's site:

http://www.hp.com/calculators/resellers/canada.html

I didn't see any in-store retailers in Canada there that sell the 50g.

Nah they no longer sells HP/Casio calcs.

Well that explains it. I guess the greedy stores care more about selling lots of crap then selling quality products at a reasonable price, just like in most of the US.

The funny thing about it is that for math it's way better then the TI-89 Titanium (I own both, so I do know) and also $50 cheaper in stores. If only it had a better screen (It's about as bad as the 84+ emu on the nspire).
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Re: Casio Prizm already for sale???
« Reply #82 on: April 04, 2011, 02:39:35 pm »
Yeah in Canada I never saw a retail store that sold them, at least not where I live. I think one reason why is that some people find HP calcs too hard to use. I heard they had a processor that could be clocked even higher than the Nspire. It's a shame it never got as popular...

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Re: Casio Prizm already for sale???
« Reply #83 on: April 04, 2011, 02:40:57 pm »
I think the main reason they're considered harder is because they use RPN notation instead of DAL.

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Re: Casio Prizm already for sale???
« Reply #84 on: April 04, 2011, 02:44:13 pm »
Yeah in Canada I never saw a retail store that sold them, at least not where I live. I think one reason why is that some people find HP calcs too hard to use. I heard they had a processor that could be clocked even higher than the Nspire. It's a shame it never got as popular...

Yeah, it takes a few days to get used to RPN, but once you do, it makes anything else seem tedious and slow. It actually doesn't use RPN by default, but I've yet to meet someone who really knows both and prefers to not use RPN.

As soon as I can get my benchmark to compile properly for the 50g, I'll be able to see if it's more powerful then the nspire. One thing I do know is that it has a LOT less RAM, only 247kb.
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Re: Casio Prizm already for sale???
« Reply #85 on: April 04, 2011, 02:45:46 pm »
Yeah, but I heard on the 50G we could disable RPN.

I think another thing is that there's that spiral/endless cycle caused by the large amount of 84+ games and the ease of TI-BASIC on it that causes most people to go with the 84+ instead of other calcs. What could maybe fix that is an emulator for other calcs.

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Re: Casio Prizm already for sale???
« Reply #86 on: April 04, 2011, 02:46:03 pm »
Though, ive heard programming wise, nothing is better supported than HP calcs... If only THEY were the popular ones...

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Re: Casio Prizm already for sale???
« Reply #87 on: April 04, 2011, 02:48:18 pm »
Though, I've heard programming wise, nothing is better supported than HP calcs... If only THEY were the popular ones...

True, at least in my experience. It was a lot easier to make software for the HP-50g then it was for the TI-89, and I'm still trying to figure out the nspire.

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Re: Casio Prizm already for sale???
« Reply #88 on: April 04, 2011, 02:49:01 pm »
What about BASIC? I heard the on-calc language was even harder than the 68K TI-BASIC X.x. A lot of people like TI-84 BASIC due to the fact it'S easy to use. By removing that easefullness, you single out a large load of programmers, like the Nspire did.

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Re: Casio Prizm already for sale???
« Reply #89 on: April 04, 2011, 02:54:23 pm »
What about BASIC? I heard the on-calc language was even harder than the 68K TI-BASIC X.x. A lot of people like TI-84 BASIC due to the fact it'S easy to use. By removing that easefullness, you single out a large load of programmers, like the Nspire did.

I'm pretty sure RPL is HP's idea of BASIC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RPL_%28programming_language%29

I haven't used it too much, but it isn't really easy to make games on the 50g without using C. It's much more of a tool then the TI calcs. The TI calcs seem to be made for schools and students, hence the pink TI-83s. HP calcs are made more for people who know what they are doing and don't care about much else (which is why there is irda but no wifi, and the lowest-res screen that is still readible), which is kind of sad, because I really prefer RPN.