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Re: Is casio going to make their own SDK?
« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2012, 08:30:09 pm »
Well, I guess that since the Prizm can work with the 9860 SDK and there's lots of community-made SDKs, they won't bother making an official one.
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Re: Is casio going to make their own SDK?
« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2012, 09:10:33 pm »
Quote from: BlakPilar on February 14, 2012, 08:25:40 pm
Mkay. And where might one get his or her hands on said GCC implementation? :3

AHelper said he would post instructions on prizm wiki in a few days ;)
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Re: Is casio going to make their own SDK?
« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2012, 10:35:22 pm »
Hmm... I guess if the 9860G SDK can work that can explain it too. It would be nice to have community tools, though, because even on the 83+ TI tools were unreliable and people decided to make their own anyway (WabbitStudio and Doors CS SDK comes to mind)
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Re: Is casio going to make their own SDK?
« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2012, 01:55:20 pm »
It would be nice if casio would just let everyone know the syscalls for prizm...
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Re: Is casio going to make their own SDK?
« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2012, 03:06:06 pm »
Don't forget fxes, we must know many informations we don't have now, like timers without reset, or screen timers for grayscale...
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Re: Is casio going to make their own SDK?
« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2012, 11:54:14 pm »
True. By the way has Casio ever released an SDK for the Algebra FX/Graph 100 series? Back in the days, many people programmed for those. I know they released an SDK for the Classpad series after a lot of pressure from the TI community.
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Re: Is casio going to make their own SDK?
« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2012, 09:48:35 am »
I'm sure Casio has an SDK for their dev team. The question is whether or not they will release it for public use. Even if they do, it may be no better than the 3rd party SDK. I remember TI actually had a SDK for C for the TI-89, and apparently it was severely lacking.
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Re: Is casio going to make their own SDK?
« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2012, 10:56:11 am »
Quote from: DJ_O on February 15, 2012, 11:54:14 pm
True. By the way has Casio ever released an SDK for the Algebra FX/Graph 100 series? Back in the days, many people programmed for those. I know they released an SDK for the Classpad series after a lot of pressure from the TI community.

No, AFX addins are just .EXE.
you can compile for afx with turboC with some options and libs.
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Re: Is casio going to make their own SDK?
« Reply #23 on: February 16, 2012, 02:10:39 pm »
Why not create a petition to request the release of the sdk for casio fx cg10/20?
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Re: Is casio going to make their own SDK?
« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2012, 02:13:48 pm »
Quote from: helder7 on February 16, 2012, 02:10:39 pm
Why not create a petition to request the release of the sdk for casio fx cg10/20?

That's a good idea! :D
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Re: Is casio going to make their own SDK?
« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2012, 02:32:33 pm »
An official SDK can indeed be useful if it contains features (toolchain capabilities, documentation, functions in header files and libraries, etc.) that third-party open SDKs don't have at the time it is released :)

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Re: Is casio going to make their own SDK?
« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2012, 03:38:28 pm »
Quote from: helder7 on February 16, 2012, 02:10:39 pm
Why not create a petition to request the release of the sdk for casio fx cg10/20?

Meh. Petitioning for an SDK might have its consequences. It's generally unwise to force their hand. It seems to me that they're more or less just starting to communicate with the community and us coming out of the gates with demands might reflect badly on us. For now we can just put a little bit of pressure on them for an SDK, but nothing to make them want to have nothing to do with us.

Or at least that's how I foresee it happening.
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Re: Is casio going to make their own SDK?
« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2012, 03:50:03 pm »
Quote from: HOMER-16 on February 16, 2012, 03:38:28 pm
Quote from: helder7 on February 16, 2012, 02:10:39 pm
Why not create a petition to request the release of the sdk for casio fx cg10/20?

Meh. Petitioning for an SDK might have its consequences. It's generally unwise to force their hand. It seems to me that they're more or less just starting to communicate with the community and us coming out of the gates with demands might reflect badly on us. For now we can just put a little bit of pressure on them for an SDK, but nothing to make them want to have nothing to do with us.

Or at least that's how I foresee it happening.

Yeah you might be right.
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Re: Is casio going to make their own SDK?
« Reply #28 on: February 16, 2012, 04:00:51 pm »
Agreed: forcing does not ever goes the relations better... :-°


EDIT 03/10/2012
Quote from: Eiyeron on February 14, 2012, 03:52:19 pm
I saw somewhere that the FX os does not belong to Casio...

I think that I found!
See, THe ClassPad's OS belongs to Saltire according to PierrotLL here, and, exploring the AFX, I saw that one executable names "SALTIRE.EXE". So I think that Saltire Owns the AFX's OS, and why not, FX's...
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