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Re: Tutorials for new comers who know little to nothing about programming?
« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2011, 05:14:51 pm »
Quote from: Deep Thought on August 10, 2011, 11:07:46 pm
If you're just starting to venture out, and assuming you have a calculator, TI-BASIC is an awesome place to start. It's completely safe, and just playing around can teach you a lot :)
I once thought that too, now I know what can happen with basic., but anyway, it's still a great place to start if you have a calc (and want to do calc programming)

If you want to learn to program on compuers, then a high level language (python, java, ruby, ...) or Game maker is a good place too start (only when you use the built-in scripting language of game maker, you don't learn anything from drag&drop).
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Re: Tutorials for new comers who know little to nothing about programming?
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2011, 06:01:28 pm »
It's not a BASIC tutorial. I was making a pun with the title
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@Ashbad, I disagree. Learning BASIC *properly* is acceptable. The problem comes in when you learn the syntax and abstractions that it enforces rather than the underlying ideas. I mean, learning ASM also won't really prepare you for any other language, but the people who did back in the 70's went on create most of the languages we use today.
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Re: Tutorials for new comers who know little to nothing about programming?
« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2011, 06:37:57 pm »
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That said, ASM generally isn't a beginner's language.

It sure used to be :)  Meaning it was the only language besides pure opcodes
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Re: Tutorials for new comers who know little to nothing about programming?
« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2011, 06:53:06 pm »
Quote from: Ashbad on August 11, 2011, 04:36:54 pm
I personally do not think BASIC is a good place to start.  It'll teach you some basic programming skills (no pun intended) but it'll be an uphill battle trying to learn more intermediate-to-advanced concepts after you've been tainted.  I suggest Ruby/Python (I have a preference towards Ruby) or something like Lua.
Unless you get trapped into Gotos or something, I personally don't see how it's a bad place to start programming. Just playing around teaches you a lot about how code works, and as for the "uphill battle," well yeah, harder languages are always harder, but it's always a good idea to start easy.

Plus if you stick with TI-BASIC, it'll teach you how valuable optimization really is, more so than any other modern language. That really helps because you get a sense of doing things with the lightest load and the fewest resources, which is important in a lot of other fields.
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Re: Tutorials for new comers who know little to nothing about programming?
« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2011, 09:49:25 pm »
I agree with Ashbad, I had to "unlearn" many of my habits with TI-BASIC just to learn Ruby, and later C++. Parameters, for one. (I think it was the same for DJ_O as well)

I would suggest Ruby at first, then move up to C++, Java, C#, etc once you have a good grasp of programming fundamentals.
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Re: Tutorials for new comers who know little to nothing about programming?
« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2011, 11:27:24 am »
I found TI-BASIC a great place to start learning about programming. Not only is it safe (like everyone already said), but it's also really easy to get results quickly. You can figure it out purely by playing with it on your own and start making graphical programs without being taught anything - something I've not seen in any "serious" language I've tried to learn since.

Plus, it naturally leads into Axe, which (I'm told) leads into ASM when you start getting complicated with it :P
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Re: Tutorials for new comers who know little to nothing about programming?
« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2011, 12:17:15 pm »
Hey welcome to the forums gendoku! if you are planning on staying you should introduce yourself.
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Re: Tutorials for new comers who know little to nothing about programming?
« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2011, 12:35:53 pm »
He did lol :P

The only thing I find with TI BASIC as a starting language, is that it's a sequential language. And beyond that, variables are global so scope and objects are harder to learn when you transition into a lower language.
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Re: Tutorials for new comers who know little to nothing about programming?
« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2011, 12:36:56 pm »
ooh woops I forgot to even check it first. XD
EDIT: I even posted on it :P
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Re: Tutorials for new comers who know little to nothing about programming?
« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2011, 02:47:44 pm »
Quote from: parser padwan on October 20, 2011, 12:36:56 pm
ooh woops I forgot to even check it first. XD
EDIT: I even posted on it :P
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Re: Tutorials for new comers who know little to nothing about programming?
« Reply #25 on: October 20, 2011, 05:40:34 pm »
I can find some time to tutor you over etherpad! I can give you a crash course. You should be good from there.
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Re: Tutorials for new comers who know little to nothing about programming?
« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2011, 06:15:40 am »
Maybe I could write a complete TI-BASIC tutorial for newbies.
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Re: Tutorials for new comers who know little to nothing about programming?
« Reply #27 on: October 21, 2011, 11:47:36 am »
Deep Thought's writing a complete tutorial for Axe, not sure if anyone's mentioned that already.
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Re: Tutorials for new comers who know little to nothing about programming?
« Reply #28 on: October 23, 2011, 11:24:48 am »
I really should write a BASIC tut. I think I could help a lot of people.
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Re: Tutorials for new comers who know little to nothing about programming?
« Reply #29 on: November 20, 2011, 02:05:01 pm »
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Deep Thought's writing a complete tutorial for Axe, not sure if anyone's mentioned that already.
I would like that. Depends on where I need to improve tho.
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