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Re: Anti-Virus
« Reply #30 on: November 28, 2010, 12:53:48 pm »
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Quando a procurar por arquivos, muitas vezes ele não encontra nada mesmo que seja um vírus.
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//sorry for not finding a better word for it, as it may look too much vulgar but, it's how I see this software.

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Obrigado, e que muitos amigos meus tem vindo a instala-lo a achar que e muito bom, mas bem, pela Web e caracterizado como muito bom...
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Re: Anti-Virus
« Reply #31 on: November 28, 2010, 01:20:03 pm »
I have Avast! as well and I think it does a good job.

Of course, a good way to not get viruses is to have a Mac or Linux machine, since 99.9% of the viruses are made for Windows (but I don't say 100% because a few Linux and Mac viruses exists as well and, IMHO, it's not advised to switch to Linux just because of that). But for the security consciencious, Avast! for Linux exists as well, it's useful for scanning your Windows partition when it's too screwed up to run a virus scan. There is also ClamAV for Linux, generally used to detect viruses in mail on a mail server.
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Re: Anti-Virus
« Reply #32 on: November 28, 2010, 02:21:44 pm »
In the last few months, a huge variety of anti-virus came to the market, because before people only used from a range of 5 (Norton, MCAfee, Kaspersky, Panda, AVG). It's good to see more availability, though :)
Funny, but I never used anything from this list: I've used ESET NOD32 for the last five years (and DrWeb for ten years before that).

The anti-virus industry is really a scam in my opinion.
No, it's not a scam. It's the pattern already discussed: people buy expensive AV packages and then download and run tons of the crap from the internet  - because it's safe now, you see. The 100% guaranteed end result of this approach is system infected with tons of malware.

Of course, a good way to not get viruses is to have a Mac or Linux machine, since 99.9% of the viruses are made for Windows (but I don't say 100% because a few Linux and Mac viruses exists as well and, IMHO, it's not advised to switch to Linux just because of that).
Linux is much safer then Windows and significantly safer then Mac but if you'll use approach "I'm safe now so I'll download and install tons of crap without thinking" you'll end up with trojan too. And if you'll think about what you are doing you'll be able to keep your Windows virus-free too even without the help of AV solftware.

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Re: Anti-Virus
« Reply #33 on: November 28, 2010, 03:49:40 pm »
Off-topic, but to the two people who are not speaking in english above, I would ask you to provide english translations of what you are saying in your posts in the future if you use the english section so that people won't need to use Google translate to know what is being discussed, especially forum moderators.

Btw is it true that Norton improved a lot lately? I remember back then it was almost considered as the bane of computers and internet. It usually detected virus once they were on the computer and not even half of the recent stuff, so it was pretty much useless, plus it spammed your desktop with notices about how it will expire and to buy the full version as soon as possible. I remember some people even said Microsoft Antivirus was better than Norton Antivirus.

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Re: Anti-Virus
« Reply #34 on: November 30, 2010, 06:03:08 pm »
Off-topic, but to the two people who are not speaking in english above, I would ask you to provide english translations of what you are saying in your posts in the future if you use the english section so that people won't need to use Google translate to know what is being discussed, especially forum moderators.

Btw is it true that Norton improved a lot lately? I remember back then it was almost considered as the bane of computers and internet. It usually detected virus once they were on the computer and not even half of the recent stuff, so it was pretty much useless, plus it spammed your desktop with notices about how it will expire and to buy the full version as soon as possible. I remember some people even said Microsoft Antivirus was better than Norton Antivirus.

Norton is an expensive anti-virus at the moment, so I hope it is good.

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Re: Anti-Virus
« Reply #35 on: December 01, 2010, 04:39:29 am »
Ah, ok, because I prefer that if you speak a language other than the site one, you should put a translation as well in a spoiler or something.

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Re: Anti-Virus
« Reply #36 on: December 08, 2010, 01:30:53 am »
@Omni: Norton has only gotten worse and more bloated over the years unfortunately. :/ My dad had been using it on their company computer for years. It used to do quite well in the early 90's caught alot of shit and repaired/ removed them. Recently though it flags alot of things falsely and rarely (I can't remember a single instance) has it actually caught anything(in recent days). A few years ago they switched to McAfee which unfortunately isn't any better. As for myself I was using Avast, but they had a few bad updates that were falsely flagging things. I'm currently using Microsoft security essentials, which does pretty well and has caught a few things(but it did miss some addware on my lappy that I had to find some specific software to remove). Just my two cents on the topic anyway.

*Edit* Oh and just fyi, the addware was there because someone was using my lappy when i wasn't home and going on... questionable sites.
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Re: Anti-Virus
« Reply #37 on: December 08, 2010, 03:01:46 am »
Ah yeah I remember Avast did that for a while. It got better now, but it used to be bad. In my case, tho, Norton wasn't flagging stuff falsely, because it just didn't flag anything at all.

*Edit* Oh and just fyi, the addware was there because someone was using my lappy when i wasn't home and going on... questionable sites.
And browsed them from IE?
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Re: Anti-Virus
« Reply #38 on: December 08, 2010, 04:37:20 am »
Oddly enough, yes from IE.

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Re: Anti-Virus
« Reply #39 on: December 08, 2010, 04:39:45 am »
Not surprising. IE is so insecure when it comes to browsing the Internet. If you go on a bad site you're almost certain to get infected. In fact, I think when I got my old computer, I got a virus as soon as I opened Google in IE6 O.O (I wanted to download Firefox and Avast)

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Re: Anti-Virus
« Reply #40 on: December 08, 2010, 09:54:37 am »
Not surprising. IE is so insecure when it comes to browsing the Internet. If you go on a bad site you're almost certain to get infected. In fact, I think when I got my old computer, I got a virus as soon as I opened Google in IE6 O.O (I wanted to download Firefox and Avast)

That's what we call: irony.

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Re: Anti-Virus
« Reply #41 on: December 08, 2010, 02:57:32 pm »
Indeed. Although a lot of security issues were fixed on IE, it's still not very safe. I got viruses with Firefox too but far less much than I did with IE.

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Re: Anti-Virus
« Reply #42 on: December 08, 2010, 03:00:23 pm »
According to Microsoft, IE8 is safer than native Firefox. Kind of ironic, 'cause the whole point of Firefox is to make the base package as barebones as reasonably possible and allow you to upgrade. ::)
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Re: Anti-Virus
« Reply #43 on: December 08, 2010, 11:38:45 pm »
Lol. Keep in mind this is Microsoft that is saying that, though.

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Re: Anti-Virus
« Reply #44 on: December 10, 2010, 10:19:58 am »
Lol. Keep in mind this is Microsoft that is saying that, though.

They do make up a lot of stuff :P

However, I can almost believe that IE is safer on Windows, since it is connected to Windows itself, HOWEVER, this can also make it more easier for hackers to get to the OS