Author Topic: Halifax's Up and Coming Computer (Read 18435 times)

Halifax · « **Reply #15 on:** April 26, 2007, 08:56:00 am »

Who said I judged by clock speed. As you can see I based PART of my judgement on the L1 cache which is the fastest on board memory. The AMD processor has more which means it will access data much faster and its L2 cache matches the Intel L2 cache. It also has no hyperthreading at all. A low L1 cache is not acceptable for gaming.

Let's just admit it AMD pwn Intel with desktops.

spengo · « **Reply #16 on:** April 26, 2007, 10:29:00 am »

I still disagree. I should point out, though the Core 2's have less L1 cache, they have a lot more L2 cache.

Core 2 Duo E6320 has 4MB L2 cache while a Athlon x2 5400+ only has 2*512kB. E6320 costs $173 and 5400+ costs $175, so they cost the same. Also, it is my understanding that with the core 2's superior power and heat levels, you can do more overclocking.

Just because AMD raped intel with athlon 64 vs. pentium 4 doesn't mean that they always will.

Still, I bet their quad-cores will be quite uber when they come out.

Halifax · « **Reply #17 on:** April 26, 2007, 10:38:00 am »

I never said that just because they beat them with the athlon 64 that they are the s*** not! So PLEASE stop using that. Also L2 cache is far slower than L1 cache if you did not know that. L2 cache is not a very big deal to me because it is almost the same speed as RAM. Either way I am sticking with AMD. I have a laptop right now with a AMD Mobile Sempron that runs Halo maxed out!!! online with 5 players and doesn't skip a beat. I think that is a pretty good feat! for something that is running 795 Mhz with 224 MB of RAM. I mean seriously AMD totally kicks a**.

Liazon · « **Reply #18 on:** April 26, 2007, 10:40:00 am »

I don't think he wants to overclock his first comp though.

besides, just get what you want when you can at the price you want. As long as you're happy w/ the comp you've made.

spengo · « **Reply #19 on:** April 26, 2007, 10:53:00 am »

I assume he will be overclocking, especially since he is purchasing a motherboard that is specifically made for overclocking.

Anyways, it's going to be an pwnage computer no matter what cpu you choose there. One last thing to say about the core 2's - 65 nanometer process FTW. :lol:

If you don't overclock, I bet I can beat you with my E6320 @2.6GHz! >8D We'll have to do a superpi race or something.

EDIT: maybe I should upgrade to E6600, it's a lot more $$$, but a 2.4GHz factory clock speed could give me a nice boost. I'll have to look into how they compare in terms of overclocking. How fast can I make it go!? %)

graywolf · « **Reply #20 on:** April 26, 2007, 11:15:00 am »

Ok. I know AMD [/I]used[/I] to beat Intel, but now they are evening out... I think, in my opinion, that AMD still has the momentum, but for laptops, I would prefer Core 2 Duo (although AMD isn't too bad considering that they just started in laptops recently). For desktops, I'm still leaning towards AMD.

As for DVD stuff, get any drive you want, but know that Blu-ray or HD will eventually replace what you use in the near future when the prices go down.

I don't personally prefer overclocking due to heating problems, and other related issues. However, it's up to you and I know the temptations.

Halifax · « **Reply #21 on:** April 26, 2007, 11:18:00 am »

If I cannot run Half-Life 2 or Halo 3 maxed out then I will overclock otherwise I will be happy with what I have built. And yes I was considering getting a blu-ray reader. I may get one in the future too when the funds are available.

EDIT: Oh yeah and would someone be willing to help me choose and setup a wireless card when I am ready to do it??

graywolf · « **Reply #22 on:** April 26, 2007, 11:25:00 am »

I don't know too much about that.

spengo · « **Reply #23 on:** April 26, 2007, 11:32:00 am »

Sure thing, I would get this: http://www.newe$gg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833315041 IEEE 802.11b/g, good ratings, antenna that you can stick anywhere.

also, check this out: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130082
That ain't a half bad price there, I think I'm upgrading what I said before to 8800GTS.

EDIT: oh yeah I should say... half life 2 runs maxed on my pentium M 2.0GHz, 1GB ram, radeon x700 so I don't think you'll have any trouble there LOL.

graywolf · « **Reply #24 on:** April 26, 2007, 12:04:00 pm »

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Still, I bet their quad-cores will be quite uber when they come out.

Umm.... SUN already has, "the UltraSPARC T1 processor gives you up to eight processing cores with four threads per core. It's like a rack of servers on one chip. With up to 32 simultaneous threads in one incredibly low-power, low-heat processor, you gain the high-volume throughput you need, while saving millions on power and cooling costs."

Just some more information about the processor:

* UltraSPARC Architecture 2005 (SPARC V9 compliant)
* On-chip level 2 cache
* Public key encryption support (RSA)
* 48-bit virtual, 4-bit physical address space
* Support for four page sizes: 8K, 64K, 4M, 256M
* Support for Hypervisor
* 4, 6, or 8 core versions
* 16 KB primary instruction cache per core
- Parity protected and single-bit error recoverable
- 4-way set-associative
* 8 KB primary data cache per core
- Parity protected and single-bit error recoverable
- 4-way set-associative
* 3 MB unifed level 2 cache
- 12-way set associative, 4 banks
- ECC
* .09 micron, 9-layer Cu metal, CMOS process
* 1.0 GHz and 1.2 GHz frequency
* 72 watt typical, 79 watt peak power consumption

But I would still like to see AMD and Intel ones.

Halifax · « **Reply #25 on:** April 26, 2007, 12:47:00 pm »

I think I will stick with the GTX

575 Mhz Core > 500 Mhz Core
128 stream processors > 96 stream processors
1800 Mhz Memory > 1600 Mhz Memory
768 MB Memory > 320 MB Memory
384 bit > 320 bit

So I think the raise in price is definetly worth it just to go with the GTX.
But I will definetly get that wireless card because it looks great.

graywolf · « **Reply #26 on:** April 26, 2007, 12:49:00 pm »

Stick with whatever you feel is best. GTX is definitely better.

spengo · « **Reply #27 on:** April 26, 2007, 12:53:00 pm »

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Still, I bet their quad-cores will be quite uber when they come out.

Umm.... SUN already has, "the UltraSPARC T1 processor gives you up to eight processing cores with four threads per core. It's like a rack of servers on one chip. With up to 32 simultaneous threads in one incredibly low-power, low-heat processor, you gain the high-volume throughput you need, while saving millions on power and cooling costs."

Just some more information about the processor:

* UltraSPARC Architecture 2005 (SPARC V9 compliant)
* On-chip level 2 cache
* Public key encryption support (RSA)
* 48-bit virtual, 4-bit physical address space
* Support for four page sizes: 8K, 64K, 4M, 256M
* Support for Hypervisor
* 4, 6, or 8 core versions
* 16 KB primary instruction cache per core
- Parity protected and single-bit error recoverable
- 4-way set-associative
* 8 KB primary data cache per core
- Parity protected and single-bit error recoverable
- 4-way set-associative
* 3 MB unifed level 2 cache
- 12-way set associative, 4 banks
- ECC
* .09 micron, 9-layer Cu metal, CMOS process
* 1.0 GHz and 1.2 GHz frequency
* 72 watt typical, 79 watt peak power consumption

But I would still like to see AMD and Intel ones.

I thought you meant AMD. Intel already has their quad-cores out.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017

Also, though GTX is definitely a better, it's also way out of my price range. That EVGA one I posted is like, an actually reasonable price!

EDIT: here's me plans updated. Found a ridiculously awesome case too. Better than the one I had before and the one you have there. (imho) I think front doors look laaame.
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EDIT2: hey, I noticed you selected G5 mouse, why not go the extra $6 and get the wireless G7?

graywolf · « **Reply #28 on:** April 26, 2007, 01:30:00 pm »

GTX is expensive, but looks like Halifax has the money, so it's all good.

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I thought you meant AMD.

Whoops! Yes I did.

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Found a ridiculously awesome case too.

I love Antec cases. %)

The alien ones are also pretty cool, but it's really an aesthetic thing to me so it's not super important.

Halifax · « **Reply #29 on:** April 26, 2007, 01:53:00 pm »

Ok well I got everything down that I am definetly buying and its ~$3000 and I have $222 in the bank

so I have to get to work.

Also d*** the Blu-ray readers and burners are like $600. I think I will hold off on those until they are a definetly a neccesity.

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