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spengo · « **Reply #135 on:** May 19, 2007, 03:53:00 pm »

The point of calculators is not to be gaming machines...

Go buy a DS or something. =)

Halifax · « **Reply #136 on:** May 19, 2007, 04:35:00 pm »

I never said it was a gaming machine but it seems people like it to be(look at omnimaga and aren't you waiting for Zelda??). I don't want to spend $150 on buying a DS that I won't be able to program for easily and won't like. Modding a calculator to make it have 4 z80s would take about $10 and some of my time. It is just a project on hardware sheesh spengo chill. Have you ever heard of fun, don't you think it would be fun to see a quad core in the TI 84, I don't know about you but I would.

Also who said this would only benefit gaming. This could benefit some very processor intensive calculus programs or anything like that, it is more than just gaming because more math programs would be able to make use of this technology also.

spengo · « **Reply #137 on:** May 19, 2007, 07:48:00 pm »

Hehe, I guess. =) What I was saying though, the point of z80 processors is not to be super-beefy or powerful. Rather than using 4 z80s, why not just use one arm9? Another fun thing to do to it - overclock your calculator! I only have one calculator and I don't want to break it though.

Also, there are no guides specifically for the 89 titanium which is a bit different from the regular 89s.

...ps, the ds lite is only $130 new and you can get used ds phats for like $70. I should also add they are quite fun and easy to program for.

It also has 2 arm cpus!

Halifax · « **Reply #138 on:** May 19, 2007, 07:54:00 pm »

Why not put in an arm9? Uhhhh maybe because that would change the whole circuit board, ram, flash, and everything about the calculator and the OS would have to be totally re written which would take 3 years and no one would feel like doing so that's why. As I have said and I will restate modding z80s onto the board would be a simple,inepensive,easily programmable, and fun hobby that I would want to do. Not put an arm9 in a ti-84.

So would it be easier for the community to jump into programming quad-core z80s in assembly or arm9. Only a select few in the community would possible be able to program the arm9 in assembly.

Also I presonally just don't like the gimmicky feel to the DS and have nevered liked its game lineup. My list goes in this order:

PS3
My computer
PSP
Xbox 360
Wii

graywolf · « **Reply #139 on:** May 20, 2007, 06:35:00 am »

Lol, extra processors rather than simple overclocking is better, in my opinion, because of greater speed boosts (even though overclocking is probably easier). A graphics chip is optional

but it would be cool to run GBA ROMS on 89s.

But let's see... If this hardware is not used for gaming, then what good is it?
- The TI89 is a CAS, so why not improve it with a port of Mathematica or Maple?
- Arbitary precision calculations on the 89 like 299! take a long time (couple of seconds

) to display so why not speed them up?
- Why not graph multiple equations like a torus knot in grayscale?
- So far, all Windows/Linux/Mac shells that emulate a "real" OS are very limited so why not develop a complete shell?

There are many things you can do...

And the same holds true for z80 calculators. Like, how about a CAS for the 84s? (There are none I know that exist. Pretty print was the "closest".)

Halifax · « **Reply #140 on:** May 20, 2007, 08:09:00 am »

Yes I agree with graywolf that's basically what I was talking about. It would make the playground so much bigger because with four z80 processors running at 15 Mhz that means that 60 Million cycles can be ran in a second instead of 15 million cycles or 6 million cycles(6 Mhz). This would prove great for a CAS, or Jim_e's audio player.

spengo · « **Reply #141 on:** May 20, 2007, 10:47:00 am »

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Why not put in an arm9? Uhhhh maybe because that would change the whole circuit board, ram, flash, and everything about the calculator and the OS would have to be totally re written which would take 3 years and no one would feel like doing so that's why. As I have said and I will restate modding z80s onto the board would be a simple,inepensive,easily programmable, and fun hobby that I would want to do. Not put an arm9 in a ti-84.

So would it be easier for the community to jump into programming quad-core z80s in assembly or arm9. Only a select few in the community would possible be able to program the arm9 in assembly.

Also I presonally just don't like the gimmicky feel to the DS and have nevered liked its game lineup. My list goes in this order:

PS3
My computer
PSP
Xbox 360
Wii

Noooo you aren't getting what I mean. I did not mean put an arm9 in a TI-83. I just meant like, it's purpose is not performance. GBA on TI-89 would be cool but what about the screen.

You'd have to squish the graphics like the zx spectrum emulator and convert it to 4-level grayscale.

Portable mathematica would be ownage though!

I thought about buying a psp, but imo it doesn't really seem to have very many good games. I think they organized the wifi a lot better on psp though and you don't need to buy a 3rd party flashcart to do awesome stuff with it. And of course, there are all the old PS1 games it can play but... I have an emulator on my PC that does that just fine. On the other hand GP2x I would have bought instead of ds except for ooonnnee thing - NO WIFI WTF?!

Arm9 doesn't have particularly difficult asm as far as I know.

Most people prefer to use C/C++ though.

Also, I noticed something very very wrong with your list... your PC is NOT number one?!??!?! O__________O PC will be my #1 gaming system forever and always.

Or is that just 'cause you haven't built the ownage one you intend to this summer?

Halifax · « **Reply #142 on:** May 20, 2007, 01:35:00 pm »

What??? If you don't think PSP has a great lineup then you don't think PS2 has a great lineup because almost every game for PS2 is ported to PSP even God of War is coming to PSP soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And GBA games are already playable on the 89 with that GBA emulator and it converts the images to grayscale and everything and still runs at a stelar speed. Check it out on ticalc.org. And anyways that's why I was talking about adding processors for programmers not emulators. So the screen wouldn't be a problem and if it would be than you can mod that too and add in a new LCD with higher resolution. Why not??

EDIT: Also my computer isn't my gaming machine. It is my developing machine. It takes a h*** of a lot more processing power to develop 3D games.

spengo · « **Reply #143 on:** May 20, 2007, 01:40:00 pm »

whoah god of war? I want a psp now.

Also, there is no GBA emulator for the 89 that I'm aware of. There is, however, a GB original emulator that works great! The GB original screen is only a little bit bigger vertically so he did it by scrolling the screen up and down instead of squishing pixels. Also, no color makes things easier too.

Halifax · « **Reply #144 on:** May 20, 2007, 01:58:00 pm »

I yeah my bad I forgot it was GB not GBA.

Netham45 · « **Reply #145 on:** May 21, 2007, 02:46:00 am »

MEEPS!!!!! This got off topic.

Um I need to spend my next paycheck on other stuff, so it will not go towards my computer. After that, I am guessing about 2-3 months until I get everything for my new computer purchased.

I also like this case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811125484
though I might have to change the PSU.

Edit: I also picked up a rather nice monitor at a thrift store for like $10. The only drawback is that it is a CRT(I have 2 of these on my desk ATM...

)

spengo · « **Reply #146 on:** May 21, 2007, 05:56:00 am »

That be a very small case. Looks good if you want a small super-quiet computer. Only fits micro-ATX mobos. Not for a LAN party gaming machine, but looks nice for like, a multimedia tivo-style computer. Do it right and you can have the thing running entirely with passive cooling except for the one 120mm on the case. That be a computer where underclocking is ftw.

Also lol I know what you mean @ the monitor. CRTs cost nothing now, just go to like, goodwill or something. I got a nice 17" CRT at goodwill for like $12-ish. :king:

When building a nice new computer though, I like a big 20" 1680*1050 LCD 'cause it's prettier.

Netham45 · « **Reply #147 on:** May 21, 2007, 07:16:00 am »

if that case gets too hot, I will probabally mod another fan or two onto it. It would be really easy to do that(*Netham45

spengo · « **Reply #148 on:** May 21, 2007, 08:11:00 am »

Nonono you misunderstand me. What I'm saying is, you're SUPPOSED to put an underclocked, passive cooling-only computer in that kind of box. It doesn't even fit regular size motherboards, only micro-ATX. It's supposed to be used to make a super-silent media PC not a gaming PC. You notice the PSU it comes with is only 300W. People who buy that case are buying it 'cause it's a great case for that type of computer - not 'cause they are building a powerhouse.

Liazon · « **Reply #149 on:** May 21, 2007, 08:41:00 am »

low end c2d or a low end sempron 64?

edit:

I meant what kind of processor do you recommend for that kind of case/media PC?

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