I thought the game was 4 level? o.o I noticed you use both gray in lot of the sprites, or do u mean just the main char?  

im so confused why did this come up again.

to ease confusion let me catagorize the ability to not have white boxes around your sprites as masking if it doesnt cut down the pallet, but requires one extra sprite, and transparency, cutting down the pallet but potentially saving a good 20 bytes or so. for the sake of us newbs who have no clue whats going on, please refer to each version of the sprite effect correctly.

second thing: is tripelea saying that sprite masking is not viable using the routines that liazon and or halifax has decided to use? im not quite sure.  

QuoteBegin-tr1p1ea+20 Dec, 2007, 9:13

jeez, you guys talked a lot.  please read everything thank you.

ok first
@tr1p1ea: I looked through both Jim e's graylib.inc and graylib2.inc and all I found was gsalignedmasked sprite.  If there is an unaligned version in Duck's original include file, then that should be compatible with trivial buffer edits.  either way, my main concern is that Jim's is aligned, and I thought you wanted the character to be able to move pixel by pixel.

second
the display of the walking character sprite is independent of the mapper.  it doesn't matter what method you choose, it can always be changed.  the only difference is that each method works differently and appears differently.

third
it's only one moving character.  that's only 8 sprite animations for walking.  that's 96 bytes per sprite including the mask.  it's really trivial to save 32 bytes per sprite.  in the end you only save like 256 bytes.  that's like 1% of an app page.  

we can always change it later on, so at this point it is more important to get things working that to argue over something as trivial as which method of masking to use.

@Spikeman: if you can find Duck's routine, then we can probably use that.

This post has been edited by Liazon on 20 Dec, 2007, 17:17

I'm sorry. I didn't mean to incite an argument, or anything. (if that's what this actually is?) I was just asking questions about efficiency / function so I have an idea about how to work things around.  

Just wondered because they do seem to share some similar elements, and because you are familar with the Final Fantasy Legend series of games. There is also the fact that many of the graphics are either from or based on graphics from different Final Fantasy games .

QuoteBegin-art_of_camelot+20 Dec, 2007, 18:07

 Indeed. I borrow a lot of influence from the series.  

You people need to calm down a bit, i don't want to have to lock (or even delete) this entire topic just because of a stupid argument because of people who get pissed off just because someone said "transparent" instead of "masked".

As for now I am not reading this topic anymore  

i was afraid it was an argument because everybody kept telling each other to quit saying stuff the wrong way even thought they were doing their best and it seemed to escalate

I just think it's unnecessary to make others feel bad. I do hope things are back to normal now though