Author Topic: Emus, CalcGS, IStudio on Vista (Read 11402 times)

Liazon · « **on:** November 28, 2007, 10:35:00 am »

Hey everyone!

I don't have a comp w/ Vista yet, but I might be changing in the near future. I don't know which programs don't work on Vista

Does anyone know if tiemu and tilem work on Vista? I assume it does since it's still WIP.

Can someone w/ Vista try http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/133/13347.html and http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/132/13274.html? and tell me if they work on Vista?

Thanks!

lordofthegeeks · « **Reply #1 on:** November 28, 2007, 10:52:00 am »

I know that tiem works and I will try the other files in a bit

btw I have vista home premium "yayyers"
also calc capture works && I have problems sometimes with graphlink but none with the ticonnect software

Zera · « **Reply #2 on:** November 28, 2007, 12:21:00 pm »

I'm not sure about the compatibility of these programs, but there are a lot of compatibilitiy issues in general. I wouldn't be surprised if you couldn't get half of them working. I haven't personally used Vista, though. Some of my clients have, and I'm only conveying some of the many problems they've had with this system. Windows wise, I haven't used anything post-2000. It's all downhill from there.

I'm not sure if Vista includes a compatability layer for older builds, like XP did. Even if it does, I'm not sure how well it works. From what I understand, half of Vista's system processes don't even work most of the time.

lordofthegeeks · « **Reply #3 on:** November 28, 2007, 02:35:00 pm »

I have the weekly crash happen if thats what you mean

1.EDIT ok I tested CalcGS normal operation didn't crash

So I loaded a 64 kb image

you should have seen what it did after I ran the sprite animated

2.Edit: @Moderators if the pic is to larger I can swap it to a thumbnail.

3.Edit: I tested Istudio IT worked great no errors and gave me the lovley grayscaled images.

JonimusPrime · « **Reply #4 on:** November 29, 2007, 01:48:00 am »

Well I'm getting a Vista comp soon so I hope I can still get all of my program to work.

rivereye · « **Reply #5 on:** November 29, 2007, 04:18:00 am »

Otherwise, get Ultimate, get Virtual PC 2007 (free) and run Windows XP in there for your stuff (I have Ultimate, and it works great for me, that, and DreamScene is sexy).

lordofthegeeks · « **Reply #6 on:** November 29, 2007, 09:45:00 am »

The virtual pc runs on home preimum too. I got windows 98 se running.
It just not suported by microsoft on that platform

Zera · « **Reply #7 on:** November 29, 2007, 09:56:00 am »

And this is another reason why I refuse to use Vista. Whenever there's an incompatibility, someone actually recommends emulating an ENTIRE operating system just to overcome a simple flaw. Now, let's think about how irrational this actually is -- you upgrade from, say, Windows XP and decide to run a tiny program that's no more than a couple hundred kilobytes. Since it turns out to be incompatible, you have to run a bloated emulator to emulate the very operating system you "upgraded" from to begin with, and all to execute one single program.

I have a serious question, and I don't mean to derail this discussion or anything, but what is the rational behind using Vista to begin with? Prettier graphics? It certainly isn't bolstering any enhanced performance or functionality!

rivereye · « **Reply #8 on:** November 29, 2007, 10:00:00 am »

actually, I was just saying it could be done, but I don't actually recommend it really.

Also, Vista does look better. There are new features, and security enhancements also.

Zera · « **Reply #9 on:** November 29, 2007, 10:04:00 am »

QuoteBegin-rivereye+29 Nov, 2007, 16:0-->

QUOTE (rivereye @ 29 Nov, 2007, 16:00)

actually, I was just saying it could be done, but I don't actually recommend it really.

Err, I wasn't necessarily complaining about it being recommended in this thread -- it's just that I've heard it more than once. Whenever someone complains about compatibility issues, Vista digeratis pop in to patronize them and recommend emulating XP, or some similar nonsense. It's really tiresome how annoying Microsoft's fanbase can be. I actually (seriously) wonder if MS hires people to go around the Internet spreading propaganda and half-truths about MS products, to make it appear as if there is any valid counter-point to common criticisms. I know http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony#Fictitious_movie_reviewer...

That's another subject entirely, though. It's not safe to mention MS around me.

Liazon · « **Reply #10 on:** November 29, 2007, 11:16:00 am »

thanks lordofthegeeks!

the eyecandy doesn't matter to me. as long as it gets the job done.

lordofthegeeks · « **Reply #11 on:** November 29, 2007, 12:42:00 pm »

the virtual pc manager takes 17 mbs to run and when I am running winows 98se w. 256 mb of ram it took the rm total + 8mbs for a virtual graphic card + 4 mbs for the "code" as the emu calls it.

plus it runs faster than my old pc

and no I am not paid by microsoft But if yo read this You can pay me if you want :wub:

BTW I love XP

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #12 on:** November 29, 2007, 01:07:00 pm »

I recommend that when an OS is released to wait at least 3 years before switching. Usually after 3 years new computers get better and run the OS more properly and at fast speed and most programs have been updated to run on Vista. Thats what I did all the time since I got a PC. When I got a PC it had 2000 installed. Then in late 2004 i switched to xp after formatting, and I am not planning to switch to vista anytime soon. 'though, the good thing about Vista is that some versions of the OS are pretty cheap compared to Windows 95,98, 2000 and XP when they came out. I remember they were like $40-500 over here when they came out and never dropped under $300, when you can get Vista Basic over here for $179 (if not less). It's funny to go in stores and you look on the shelves and the Windows XP price is higher than Vista

TIfanx1999 · « **Reply #13 on:** November 29, 2007, 01:29:00 pm »

I have a new hp pavillion that we got last week so ill test calc gs on mine and see if i have the same problem that lordofthegeeks did. I'd have to say that i really hate Vista. It's interface is over complicated and alot of the added stuff is really unnessecary. The sheer size of VISTA is XBOX huge, although this IS microsoft we're talking about.

Plus it is SLOW compared to XP. XP is definitley my favorite ver. of windows,(in classic mode of course)although Windows NT makes a close second.

Zera · « **Reply #14 on:** November 29, 2007, 01:32:00 pm »

QuoteBegin-DJ Omnimaga+29 Nov, 2007, 19:07-->

QUOTE (DJ Omnimaga @ 29 Nov, 2007, 19:07)

I recommend that when an OS is released to wait at least 3 years before switching.

Ditto. It's a good idea to at least wait for adequate support, testing and coverage. Vista is kind of in its early stages, and hasn't really recieved any updates.

Author Topic: Emus, CalcGS, IStudio on Vista (Read 11402 times)

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