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Re: How to obtain TI-81 rom?
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June 22, 2010, 03:44:51 pm »
Well, it's slower because it's being emulated, rather than just run. The only calc for which you may get almost-normal speed is the 81, since it was only 2MHz in the first place. I don't think the 81 ROM is made into an 86 one, but I'm not sure.
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Re: How to obtain TI-81 rom?
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My 86 is fun to mess with, only it only partially works with Ti-Connect (for me).
I can transfer some files, but not others and I've yet to notice why they fail.
I think getting an 86 would be fun for you Sir.
The 82 is not supported with the most recent version of Ti-Connect.
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Re: How to obtain TI-81 rom?
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June 22, 2010, 08:25:15 pm »
So does anyone know if you can get TiLP to run in 64-bit Windows?
If so, I might be able to link to my 82.
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Re: How to obtain TI-81 rom?
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June 23, 2010, 01:53:50 am »
You may want to check the forum help section or other calc discussion areas for TiLP threads. There was a TiLP progress thread somewhere by Lionel Debroux or JonimusPrime, which might have some info on 64 bit support.
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Re: How to obtain TI-81 rom?
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June 23, 2010, 05:00:37 am »
The TI-81 roms were dumped by one (or group) of this fellows: Randy Compton, critor (I think he collects TI roms), Brandon Wilson or Benjamin Moody.
3 pages and you did not answer the initial pertinent question.
There must always do a first legit dump.
The procedure was:
Hack the TI-81, code or get get a program that displays hexadecimal of the rom on the screen.
Run it while a camera is filming
Get a script to convert the text on the video to text or do it manually
Convert the hexadecimal text into a binary file (easy enough to code on C/C++, a quick PHP script or google for some program)
I think Emu8x does need some extra ram pages...
To run a TI-81 rom you need the TI-86 patch or you code to one of the open source emulators (Wabbitemu, PindurTI (no one continues it) or Tiemu for z80)
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Re: How to obtain TI-81 rom?
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June 23, 2010, 10:53:43 am »
Well no need to badmouth people for that. If you notice, a lot of the people around who are very active were not back when those ROMs were dumped. And yeah I remember that procedure, it seemed rather hectic to dump a ROM. If I remember you needed good lightning too
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Re: How to obtain TI-81 rom?
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August 11, 2010, 12:54:26 pm »
86 ti-connect always worked for me, just some programs wouldn't send. Those programs had a bad header, usually.
I didn't think you needed
that
much power (lightning)
TilP will send the files that TI-connect wouldn't, but half of them crashed my calc anyways
Get TI-Graph-link for more compatibility, but you can't use the silverlink, you'll need a serial cable.
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Re: How to obtain TI-81 rom?
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August 11, 2010, 02:52:51 pm »
Feh, the TI-86 causes a crash on my missing-ram page ti-84+se when using emu8x I can only wonder if the same happens with the ti-85 rom
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Re: How to obtain TI-81 rom?
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August 11, 2010, 04:03:43 pm »
yeah, along with the 82, 83, and 81, AFAIK. They'll all crash eventually.
The reason why is because of how emu8x uses extra RAM.
Page $82 contains ram page 1 of the emulated calc, and page $83 contains ram page 0. At the beginning of page $84 is where the emulated LCD is backed up. Other stuff is stored in appBackupScreen. (L3 for you Axe programmers
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On the calcs w/o the extra RAM, all the extra pages are the same. Pages $82, $83, and $84 are all the same page.
This means that, for the emulated calc, a write to, say, $9D95 (which is on ram page 1), will be mirrored at $DD95 on ram page 0.
When you press left-right-alpha to bring up the emulator menu, the emulated LCD is backed up, and overwrites $8000-$82FF and $C000-$C2FF in the emulated calc's RAM.
Keeping it from crashing is an art
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Actually, the LCD backup might be used actively, which means those addresses mirror the LCD constantly.
And for the 86, it's even worse, because it uses
all
the extra RAM pages.
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Re: How to obtain TI-81 rom?
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August 11, 2010, 04:05:08 pm »
As long as I dont return from the left right alpha menu I should be fine
Now I want a TI-83+SE
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Re: How to obtain TI-81 rom?
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August 11, 2010, 04:10:14 pm »
I've had it crash for an emulated 81, too. Unity doesn't install, and matrix operations cause funny things to happen. Theoretically, a fixed version of the emulator that works correctly can function on a newer 84+(SE), since it only needs 8KB of RAM plus the 768 bytes for the LCD.
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Yeah, an 83+SE would be awesome. I'm gonna look into getting one eventually.
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August 11, 2010, 04:15:21 pm »
I try to not use the TI-81, although it is slightly faster, I plan to use it in the state test, so when it is time for resetting, they reset the TI-82 instead <.<
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August 11, 2010, 04:19:24 pm »
What?
Emu8x is much slower than the real calc, and you'd be better off using your 84+SE anyway.
If I am misunderstanding you, which I probably am, could you elaborate?
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August 11, 2010, 04:22:37 pm »
Err, yeah, sorry
1. test starts
2. teacher comes to reset calc
3. I put it in TI-83/82/81 mode (whichever)
4. teacher resets the emulation
5. I go back to TI-84 mode and start the test with all my programs and stuff
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Re: How to obtain TI-81 rom?
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August 11, 2010, 04:25:47 pm »
First of all, that's cheating
Ignoring that, they might realize that it's slower or that it acts differently than the normal calc (The reset menu looks different on the 81/82/83 than the 83+ series)
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