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My OS (2.43) is a heap of ruins!
« on: July 24, 2011, 01:59:21 pm »
I really don't know what to do:

Yesterday I opened the program list and scrolled down to "S".
After 8 minutes it wasn't ready. (I havehad veeeery many programs)

I took the batteryes out and tried to delete the OS (I have ramclears very often, my calc doesn't support greyscale, 2nd OFF isn't possible, ...)
The only thing it made was:
Ramclear!

Tried three times again.
Ramclear!
Ramclear!
Ramclear!

Then I wanted to delete the programs and groups (I have more groups than programs)
So I made an archieve clear, but only the programs, groups, ... (NOT the OS and the APPs)

Then, eerything was gone.
But I had hundreds of new programs:

BASu
BASu
BASu
BASu
BASu
...

I tried to open one:
ERROR

Editing one:
TI went off
RAMCLEAR
programs (UNARCHIEVED) still there

deleting one:
TI went off
RAMCLEAR
programs (UNARCHIEVED) still there


I tried to delete the OS again.
only the programs were gone  :D





TODAY:

Now, I loaded Axe 1.0.1 on my TI.
(hasn't ever worked before. but now it has!!) :D

I tried to edit an archieved program (axe-code)
TI went off!
Ramclear!
My archieved programs are still there. But the programs (BASu) are back!  :banghead:  :banghead:  :mad:

WHAT SHOULD I DO??
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Re: My OS (2.43) is a heap of ruins!
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2011, 02:30:41 pm »
Ok, it's hard to tell what's wrong with this, but Axe 1.0.X has some major glitches.  Avoid.

Try this.  Take out a battery.  Press and hold DEL.  While holding Del, put the battery back in.  It should say it's waiting for an OS.
At this point try re-sending the OS using TiLP or TI-connect.

See if that works...

EDIT: what did you run beforehand that you think might have caused this?  Axe 1.0.X?  Some OS-modding program that went haywire?
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Re: My OS (2.43) is a heap of ruins!
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2011, 04:05:53 pm »
It sounds like something got pretty seriously corrupted. You've already erased all your programs, appvars, et cetera? Do you mind resending all your apps and OS, too? Remove a battery for several seconds, hold MODE, and reinsert the battery. This will erase pretty much everything: the OS, all applications, and everything that was and is still in the archive. This is the boot code's self test function, which tests almost every sector of the flash chip.
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Re: My OS (2.43) is a heap of ruins!
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2011, 04:13:55 pm »
Just as a curiosity, is this the same thing as the MODE ALPHA S self test (just started differently, from boot rather than called by OS) or is it more thorough somehow?
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Re: My OS (2.43) is a heap of ruins!
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2011, 04:15:36 pm »
It's completely different. Mode Alpha+S doesn't erase the entire archive and OS. It just resets RAM.
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Re: My OS (2.43) is a heap of ruins!
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2011, 04:16:26 pm »
So "This will clear all memory" is kind of bluffing or something? :P
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Re: My OS (2.43) is a heap of ruins!
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2011, 04:17:14 pm »
No. I said that the boot-mode self test will clear everything. The Mode Alpha+S, however, only resets RAM.
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Re: My OS (2.43) is a heap of ruins!
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2011, 04:28:25 pm »
When you do mode alpha s from TIOS, it says "This will clear all memory" under "Enter self-test?"
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Re: My OS (2.43) is a heap of ruins!
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2011, 04:52:56 pm »
Is this something fixable? I wonder if we should report it to Quigibo.
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Re: My OS (2.43) is a heap of ruins!
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2011, 08:18:33 pm »
Quote from: Darl181 on July 24, 2011, 04:28:25 pm
When you do mode alpha s from TIOS, it says "This will clear all memory" under "Enter self-test?"
Yeah, it's a typo or something.  It only clears RAM.
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Re: My OS (2.43) is a heap of ruins!
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2011, 02:00:59 am »
It may not be a typo so much as a leftover from the days when the EOS didn't support flash memory.
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Re: My OS (2.43) is a heap of ruins!
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2011, 02:03:54 am »
Actually, I must say that the boot code self test is almost exactly like the Mode + Alpha + S self test. They both test the screen and the keys. However, DrDnar is right, the boot code self test does have that little "Testing Flash" stage...
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Re: My OS (2.43) is a heap of ruins!
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2011, 04:35:10 am »
Quote from: darl181
Ok, it's hard to tell what's wrong with this, but Axe 1.0.X has some major glitches.  Avoid.

Try this.  Take out a battery.  Press and hold DEL.  While holding Del, put the battery back in.  It should say it's waiting for an OS.
At this point try re-sending the OS using TiLP or TI-connect.

See if that works...

EDIT: what did you run beforehand that you think might have caused this?  Axe 1.0.X?  Some OS-modding program that went haywire?




YESTERDAY EVENING:

I made a full archieve clear.
The stange programs had gone.  :D  :D
Then I tried to delete the OS.
IT HAS WORKED!!  :D
(waiting for os...)



TODAY:

I wanted to send the OS of a calc (of someone of my class) to my TI.
I pressen ON.
It sayd RAM CLEAR!  :banghead:
The OS was still there!  :mad:

I tried to send a new os to my TI.
Every time it said RAM CLEAR!






Quote from: DrDnar
It sounds like something got pretty seriously corrupted. You've already erased all your programs, appvars, et cetera?
Do you mind resending all your apps and OS, too?
Everything is deleted only the OS is still there.


Quote from: DrDnar
Remove a battery for several seconds, hold MODE, and reinsert the battery. This will erase pretty much everything: the OS, all applications, and everything that was and is still in the archive. This is the boot code's self test function, which tests almost every sector of the flash chip.
Trying...



     MODE + ALPHA + S was:

START?


     pressed Enter


24036

0

1

2

3

4

5

6

7

8

9

10

11

12

13

14

...



     pressed on:
     look at the pic:


Spoiler For Picture:
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Re: My OS (2.43) is a heap of ruins!
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2011, 04:41:47 am »
I've pressed on again.
it was continuing counting.
pressed on again
RAMCLEAR.

I've tried the battery + MODE
Nothing.

It always tells me, the OS is deleted.
Then, I don't send another OS.
the TI turns off.
If I press ON, it says RAMCLEAR.


(I'm not able to delete the OS. It's always still there!)

What can I do, else?




Sorry, doublepost)
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Re: My OS (2.43) is a heap of ruins!
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2011, 11:25:52 am »
Yeah, mode + battery won't run if you still have an OS on the calculator. So...
1. Start an OS transfer
2. Pull out the cable half way though
3. Pull out a battery
4. Wait a few seconds
5. Put it in while holding MODE
6. Press ON until you are at the flash test
7. Let the flash test finish.
8. Press ON a few times to get through the rest of the tests
9. Send an OS
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