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Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
« on: October 19, 2011, 08:02:00 pm »
Well, I got a touchpad nspire a few days ago and was wondering how I could run ndless if my operating system was 3.0.1.1753.  What should I do?
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Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2011, 08:28:30 pm »
You should wait.
There is no Ndless 3.x yet.
There is no* way to downgrade a calc with an unpatched 3.x operating system.
There is only time.

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By this I mean simple way, I think I recall something about using the dock to downgrade it, but this requires extra equipment
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Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2011, 08:37:07 pm »
Quote from: NecroBumpist on October 19, 2011, 08:28:30 pm
You should wait.
There is no Ndless 3.x yet.
There is no* way to downgrade a calc with an unpatched 3.x operating system.
There is only time.

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By this I mean simple way, I think I recall something about using the dock to downgrade it, but this requires extra equipment
An RS232 interface, actually.
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Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2011, 02:38:36 am »
Indeed, you can downgrade the boot2 with the rs232 interface, and then use downgradefix to be able to downgrade.

But this isn't the most easy thing to do, so unless you have the right tools, you are stuck with Lua games and programs (some which are fun :D).
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Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2011, 05:09:07 am »
Has anybody tried to downgrade the CX CAS yet?
I updated mine to 3.1.0, which also updated the boot2 to 3.1, can I go back to 3.0.2 if I have an USB <=> TTL RS232 Adapter?

Or will Ndless 3.0 also work on OS 3.1?

TIA
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Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2011, 05:11:12 am »
Doesnt it allow downgrades? Thats evil :P
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Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2011, 05:38:48 am »
It does, but then I have OS 3.0.2 and boot2 3.1.0..-.-

And I don't know if ndless will work with boot2 3.1.0, because ndless 2 also included some lowlevel code (I think).
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Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2011, 09:20:24 am »
Quote from: Cuervo on October 20, 2011, 05:09:07 am
Has anybody tried to downgrade the CX CAS yet?
I updated mine to 3.1.0, which also updated the boot2 to 3.1, can I go back to 3.0.2 if I have an USB <=> TTL RS232 Adapter?

Or will Ndless 3.0 also work on OS 3.1?

TIA
Ndless 3.0 will work on OS 3.1, the only problem is that it's not finished or released yet :P
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Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2011, 09:52:30 am »
Where can I find it?
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Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2011, 09:53:03 am »
It's not out yet.
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Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2011, 09:55:14 am »
Bleh, you guys made me think one exists now :P
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Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2011, 10:47:34 am »
You cannot find it, and nobody can find it, because it doesn't exist.
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Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2011, 10:51:54 am »
Quote from: Lionel Debroux on October 23, 2011, 10:47:34 am
You cannot find it, and nobody can find it, because it doesn't exist.
I believe this is one of their "secret" works - it's not even on SVN!
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Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2011, 11:00:38 am »
No we don't have any secret.

Ndless 3.0 does *not* exist at all for now, not even in an alpha version.


3.x OSes / Boot2 are full of watchdogs which will force the calculator into rebooting when something abnormal is detected for a certain period (when you manage to take control on the hardware over the OS for example).

Ndless 3.0 probably won't even be out this year, seeing how TI has protected the 3.x versions. You should better develop/use Lua programs, or move to Casio Prizm.



Sorry, but it will be useless for you to ask again for Ndless 3.0 tomorrow, next week, or even next month... The answer will probably be the same.

It's very hard and if you want it out sooner, you should join and help with its development if you are able to... There is no other way.
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Re: Ndless 3.0 for Nspire
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2011, 11:47:48 am »
Quote from: critor on October 23, 2011, 11:00:38 am
No we don't have any secret.

Ndless 3.0 does *not* exist at all for now, not even in an alpha version.


3.x OSes / Boot2 are full of watchdogs which will force the calculator into rebooting when something abnormal is detected for a certain period (when you manage to take control on the hardware over the OS for example).

Ndless 3.0 probably won't even be out this year, seeing how TI has protected the 3.x versions. You should better develop/use Lua programs, or move to Casio Prizm.



Sorry, but it will be useless for you to ask again for Ndless 3.0 tomorrow, next week, or even next month... The answer will probably be the same.

It's very hard and if you want it out sooner, you should join and help with its development if you are able to... There is no other way.
Even though that is depressing to hear, it at least clarifies the situation you guys are in. Thanks! :)
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