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Re: New CX CAS OS......Worth upgrading?
« Reply #60 on: January 10, 2014, 01:31:50 pm »
Read again the above posts, you missed something obvious.
Bonus fact : mViewer GX does not generate .png.tns
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Re: Re: New CX CAS OS......Worth upgrading?
« Reply #61 on: January 10, 2014, 05:29:50 pm »
Oh right the 3.2+ compatible mViewer is GX, not CX. I miixed them up because I thought that mViewer CX was just called mViewer.
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Re: New CX CAS OS......Worth upgrading?
« Reply #62 on: January 10, 2014, 05:44:19 pm »
Quote from: Levak on January 10, 2014, 01:31:50 pm
Read again the above posts, you missed something obvious.
Bonus fact : mViewer GX does not generate .png.tns
Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on January 10, 2014, 05:29:50 pm
Oh right the 3.2+ compatible mViewer is GX, not CX. I miixed them up because I thought that mViewer CX was just called mViewer.

O.K. folks...This is probably the WORST experience I've had on a calculator site.

I went to TI planet and changed my default language to British English...The site is still all in French.
Is this the way it's supposed to work?

Also,

Which version of MViewer is used for the CX CAS please?
You've thoroughly confused me & TI planet, seeing as it's all in French, doesn't do me any good right now either! LOL

Please help...Much obliged
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Re: New CX CAS OS......Worth upgrading?
« Reply #63 on: January 10, 2014, 08:17:28 pm »
Quote from: stefos on January 10, 2014, 05:44:19 pm

Also,

Which version of MViewer is used for the CX CAS please?
You've thoroughly confused me & TI planet, seeing as it's all in French, doesn't do me any good right now either! LOL

Please help...Much obliged
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depending on your os

mviewer cx if you have 3.1

mviewer gx if 3.2 or higher
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Re: New CX CAS OS......Worth upgrading?
« Reply #64 on: January 10, 2014, 08:30:53 pm »
Quote from: hking1 on January 10, 2014, 08:17:28 pm
Quote from: stefos on January 10, 2014, 05:44:19 pm

Also,

Which version of MViewer is used for the CX CAS please?
You've thoroughly confused me & TI planet, seeing as it's all in French, doesn't do me any good right now either! LOL

Please help...Much obliged
Stefos

depending on your os

mviewer cx if you have 3.1

mviewer gx if 3.2 or higher

I get it.

This seems to be an online program only.

I thought this was an app that you downloaded on to the CX CAS.

This is where the confusion is coming in.
Stefos
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Re: New CX CAS OS......Worth upgrading?
« Reply #65 on: January 11, 2014, 04:10:43 am »
Quote from: stefos on January 10, 2014, 05:44:19 pm
O.K. folks...This is probably the WORST experience I've had on a calculator site.

I went to TI planet and changed my default language to British English...The site is still all in French.
Is this the way it's supposed to work?
Thanks for the compliment.

What do you expect to change from a French forum when you switch language ?
Do you really expect all the content to change ? Even the people messages ?
Only most important news on TI-Planet are translated in English because its an additional work beside the original French news. Also, all the layout of TI-Planet is using PHPBB language system, so the entire layout is translated when switching language. Last but not least, the custom pages are also translated by hand, and mViewer GX is one of them.

I've just changed my settings and everything works as expected, so show me a screenshot of what you call "the site is still all in French".

PS : Yes, I'm mad to hear such false criticism. Also, your message may be inappropriate according to Omnimaga rules "Our goal is to provide a discussion environment free from hostility" : http://www.omnimaga.org/index.php?action=ezportal;sa=page;p=2

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This seems to be an online program only.

Its not "an online program only", its an online generator (the G in mViewer GX) that gives you the opportunity to """view""" PDF or images on you calculator (just to remind you some principles or what is the goal of a calculator). You don't imagine the constant fight we are having in order to make mViewer GX generate reliable files in term of memory usage due to that silly TI code. Please considerate and understand our choices (and pain). Thanks.
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Re: New CX CAS OS......Worth upgrading?
« Reply #66 on: January 11, 2014, 11:58:32 am »
Quote from: stefos on January 10, 2014, 05:44:19 pm
Quote from: Levak on January 10, 2014, 01:31:50 pm
Read again the above posts, you missed something obvious.
Bonus fact : mViewer GX does not generate .png.tns
Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on January 10, 2014, 05:29:50 pm
Oh right the 3.2+ compatible mViewer is GX, not CX. I miixed them up because I thought that mViewer CX was just called mViewer.

O.K. folks...This is probably the WORST experience I've had on a calculator site.

I went to TI planet and changed my default language to British English...The site is still all in French.
Is this the way it's supposed to work?

Also,

Which version of MViewer is used for the CX CAS please?
You've thoroughly confused me & TI planet, seeing as it's all in French, doesn't do me any good right now either! LOL

Please help...Much obliged
Stefos

I have the same problem, so I just use google chrome and it automatically asks me if i want all the french translated to english.
For some of the more prasistant pages I will actually go to google translate .com
It works really well

Quote from: Levak on January 11, 2014, 04:10:43 am
Its not "an online program only", its an online generator (the G in mViewer GX) that gives you the opportunity to """view""" PDF or images on you calculator (just to remind you some principles or what is the goal of a calculator). You don't imagine the constant fight we are having in order to make mViewer GX generate reliable files in term of memory usage due to that silly TI code. Please considerate and understand our choices (and pain). Thanks.

Could you enlighten us?
Sense the generator (which is a program in itself isn't it?) seems done, what constant battle could there be?
It would be nice if they made this generator (program) downloadable so we wouldn't need an internet connection.
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Re: New CX CAS OS......Worth upgrading?
« Reply #67 on: January 11, 2014, 12:06:23 pm »
Quote from: Stauf99 on January 11, 2014, 11:58:32 am
I have the same problem, so I just use google chrome and it automatically asks me if i want all the french translated to english.
But the layout is in english, right ?
The user posts aren't automaticly translated if that's the initial question ... only the stuff we can translate is translated by hand to ensure accurate content.

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Sense the generator (which is a program in itself isn't it?) seems done, what constant battle could there be?
The generator is not accurate if you want to convert more than 6 pages of PDF, that is what we are currently trying to solve, this is our constant fight.

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It would be nice if they made this generator (program) downloadable so we wouldn't need an internet connection.
Having an online tool is good for multiple reason :
  • Always the latest version
  • Ensure portability without any effort
  • Skip dependency problems
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Re: New CX CAS OS......Worth upgrading?
« Reply #68 on: January 11, 2014, 12:42:30 pm »
ah I see, thanks Levak : )
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Re: New CX CAS OS......Worth upgrading?
« Reply #69 on: January 11, 2014, 04:56:27 pm »
Quote from: Levak on January 11, 2014, 04:10:43 am
PS : Yes, I'm mad to hear such false criticism. Also, your message may be inappropriate according to Omnimaga rules "Our goal is to provide a discussion environment free from hostility" : http://www.omnimaga.org/index.php?action=ezportal;sa=page;p=2
Well it isn't written there since rules tries to be as short as possible, but indeed Omnimaga discourages bashing other community sites (unless people on the other site decided to do this to us, but even then public complaining about it would probably be discouraged here unless it became clear the other site had declared war on us). Omnimaga members certainly don't like when another calculator website engages into cheap shots against the site they invest a lot of time into. There are better ways to complain about a website problem , such as telling people there directly instead of in their back.


That said, as much as I agree about the online state of Mviewer GX, it would be nice if eventually there was a standalone alternative if there's enough demand (such as TokenIDE being an alternative to SourceCoder). Some people like Juju have no internet connection at home for financial reasons and most US school filters rivals North Korea's Internet filters. It is not a big hurry, though, and a lot of great effort was put in mViewer already. Heck, maybe if people want an offline version they could try to help making it a reality? ;) One big concern I have is that Adobe Acrobat is constantly updated with new features. As people upgrade, there are chances that more and more PDF files won't be convertable anymore using mViewer GX if there are two versions to maintain, delaying updates.
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Re: New CX CAS OS......Worth upgrading?
« Reply #70 on: January 11, 2014, 05:48:34 pm »
Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on January 11, 2014, 04:56:27 pm
One big concern I have is that Adobe Acrobat is constantly updated with new features. As people upgrade, there are chances that more and more PDF files won't be convertable anymore using mViewer GX if there are two versions to maintain, delaying updates.

If this is your biggest fear, you may be pleased to hear that mViewer GX core code doesn't process any PDF directly. It uses external libraries to generate the tns. Most of the work is done in the standalone Lua script, not actually in the generator.
« Last Edit: January 11, 2014, 06:23:38 pm by Levak »
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Re: New CX CAS OS......Worth upgrading?
« Reply #71 on: January 11, 2014, 05:52:02 pm »
I think it's fine as long as pdfs can be converted into images, then they can be GX converted.

It's nice that they are getting rid of the middle step but in my mind it's unnecessary enough to send out a downloadable version that will do just images.

not worried at all though, just how I feel. and it's awesome what has been done thus far.
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Re: New CX CAS OS......Worth upgrading?
« Reply #72 on: January 12, 2014, 03:14:19 pm »
Quote from: Levak on January 11, 2014, 05:48:34 pm
Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on January 11, 2014, 04:56:27 pm
One big concern I have is that Adobe Acrobat is constantly updated with new features. As people upgrade, there are chances that more and more PDF files won't be convertable anymore using mViewer GX if there are two versions to maintain, delaying updates.

If this is your biggest fear, you may be pleased to hear that mViewer GX core code doesn't process any PDF directly. It uses external libraries to generate the tns. Most of the work is done in the standalone Lua script, not actually in the generator.
Ah that's better then :D
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Re: New CX CAS OS......Worth upgrading?
« Reply #73 on: January 13, 2014, 11:21:22 am »
Quote from: Levak on January 11, 2014, 04:10:43 am
Quote from: stefos on January 10, 2014, 05:44:19 pm
O.K. folks...This is probably the WORST experience I've had on a calculator site.

I went to TI planet and changed my default language to British English...The site is still all in French.
Is this the way it's supposed to work?
Thanks for the compliment.

What do you expect to change from a French forum when you switch language ?
Do you really expect all the content to change ? Even the people messages ?
Only most important news on TI-Planet are translated in English because its an additional work beside the original French news. Also, all the layout of TI-Planet is using PHPBB language system, so the entire layout is translated when switching language. Last but not least, the custom pages are also translated by hand, and mViewer GX is one of them.

I've just changed my settings and everything works as expected, so show me a screenshot of what you call "the site is still all in French".

PS : Yes, I'm mad to hear such false criticism. Also, your message may be inappropriate according to Omnimaga rules "Our goal is to provide a discussion environment free from hostility" : http://www.omnimaga.org/index.php?action=ezportal;sa=page;p=2

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This seems to be an online program only.

Its not "an online program only", its an online generator (the G in mViewer GX) that gives you the opportunity to """view""" PDF or images on you calculator (just to remind you some principles or what is the goal of a calculator). You don't imagine the constant fight we are having in order to make mViewer GX generate reliable files in term of memory usage due to that silly TI code. Please considerate and understand our choices (and pain). Thanks.

First of all sir....My comment was in regards to upgrading to OS version 3.6

I do apologize that I was not clear about that.  I own it.

Second, No I thought the page would change to English because I've experienced this on a foreign language forum,
which actually did change the entire page.........Histwar Les Grognards game site AND it's forum does this.

Third, I should have not upgraded to OS 3.6 and I get what I deserve as a result.

Finally, I'll be posting on this website only from here on out.

Thank you for everything,
Stefos
« Last Edit: January 13, 2014, 11:22:29 am by stefos »
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Re: New CX CAS OS......Worth upgrading?
« Reply #74 on: January 13, 2014, 12:22:38 pm »
Quote from: stefos on January 13, 2014, 11:21:22 am
Second, No I thought the page would change to English because I've experienced this on a foreign language forum,
which actually did change the entire page.........Histwar Les Grognards game site AND it's forum does this.
And you think all blonde girls are stupid because you met one stupid blonde girl. That is called discrimination. More seriously:
  • It is not because one site translates everything that every site should, otherwise, none would translate anything because there is one English website (Omnimaga) so every website would have to be in English.
  • The content on the forums on Histwar Les Grognards are not translated, they are only available in English. Only the buttons and the sentences such as "Welcome, Guest. Please login or register." are available in different languages. On the contrary on TI Planet, the content (which is why you need most, because even Google translate is enough to understand the few words on a button and browse a website) is translated, for most interesting news and tutorials.
  • TI Planet is not a website about a paid game. The people who made Histwar Les Grognards's website were paid to do it, so they did it, and they are going to earn even more money now that everyone can browse their website, while people who made TI Planet translated their content for free.
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