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Re: New CX CAS OS......Worth upgrading?
« Reply #75 on: January 13, 2014, 09:13:56 pm »
Actually this comes back to the whole Google Translate solution. It's not perfect, but it does the job most of the time and translates everything. I use it when visiting Cncalc.org.

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Re: New CX CAS OS......Worth upgrading?
« Reply #76 on: January 14, 2014, 09:51:35 am »
Second, No I thought the page would change to English because I've experienced this on a foreign language forum,
which actually did change the entire page.........Histwar Les Grognards game site AND it's forum does this.
And you think all blonde girls are stupid because you met one stupid blonde girl. That is called discrimination. More seriously:
  • It is not because one site translates everything that every site should, otherwise, none would translate anything because there is one English website (Omnimaga) so every website would have to be in English.
  • The content on the forums on Histwar Les Grognards are not translated, they are only available in English. Only the buttons and the sentences such as "Welcome, Guest. Please login or register." are available in different languages. On the contrary on TI Planet, the content (which is why you need most, because even Google translate is enough to understand the few words on a button and browse a website) is translated, for most interesting news and tutorials.
  • TI Planet is not a website about a paid game. The people who made Histwar Les Grognards's website were paid to do it, so they did it, and they are going to earn even more money now that everyone can browse their website, while people who made TI Planet translated their content for free.
Look,

Your post sounds more like harassment & you've come across like a jerk.

Who asked for YOUR particular opinion?  Not me.

Thanks but I don't need your "insights"

Stefos

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Re: New CX CAS OS......Worth upgrading?
« Reply #77 on: January 14, 2014, 11:18:10 am »
Then go complain somewhere else, seriously.
Having such a behaviour will not make people help you.

And telling you this, I'm already helping you being a better person ; how nice of me.

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Re: New CX CAS OS......Worth upgrading?
« Reply #78 on: January 14, 2014, 12:13:35 pm »
Your post sounds more like harassment
This can't be harassment since I only posted once (before that post) about the translation topic, so go get a dictionnary (among other things) before posting about words (among other things) you don't know.

you've come across like a jerk.
I don't think I need to comment this...

Who asked for YOUR particular opinion?  Not me.
Yeah, so no one would vote for the president because no one's opinion was particularly asked for. Once again you show some logic there.

Thanks but I don't need your "insights"
Indeed, you need more than this.
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Re: Re: New CX CAS OS......Worth upgrading?
« Reply #79 on: January 14, 2014, 12:35:48 pm »
When someone disagree with your opinion, he is free to counter it with his own, even if he was not involved, especially when it comes to innapropriate behavior. You should be grateful stefos that people tried to help you with your TI-Nspire and to improve. Now that you repeatedly broke forum rules, it's gonna get much harder for you to get calculator help and feedback on your projects.
Thanks but I don't need your "insights"
Indeed, you need more than this.
A ban? O.O (Actually I think this would require about three staff warnings first. EDIT: Nvm it seems even members bringing up the rules multiple times did it)
« Last Edit: January 14, 2014, 01:16:23 pm by DJ Omnimaga »

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Re: New CX CAS OS......Worth upgrading?
« Reply #80 on: January 14, 2014, 01:02:11 pm »
Second, No I thought the page would change to English because I've experienced this on a foreign language forum,
which actually did change the entire page.........Histwar Les Grognards game site AND it's forum does this.
And you think all blonde girls are stupid because you met one stupid blonde girl. That is called discrimination. More seriously:
  • It is not because one site translates everything that every site should, otherwise, none would translate anything because there is one English website (Omnimaga) so every website would have to be in English.
  • The content on the forums on Histwar Les Grognards are not translated, they are only available in English. Only the buttons and the sentences such as "Welcome, Guest. Please login or register." are available in different languages. On the contrary on TI Planet, the content (which is why you need most, because even Google translate is enough to understand the few words on a button and browse a website) is translated, for most interesting news and tutorials.
  • TI Planet is not a website about a paid game. The people who made Histwar Les Grognards's website were paid to do it, so they did it, and they are going to earn even more money now that everyone can browse their website, while people who made TI Planet translated their content for free.
Look,

Your post sounds more like harassment & you've come across like a jerk.

Who asked for YOUR particular opinion?  Not me.

Thanks but I don't need your "insights"

Stefos

you have just crossed the line into harassment yourself, despite receiving multiple hints from other members that you should stop. enjoy your temporary ban and feel free to come back in a few days when you cool down a bit.

EDIT: also, at Levak and Hayleia, getting angry in response to someone only makes things worse.
« Last Edit: January 14, 2014, 02:24:46 pm by shmibs »

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Re: New CX CAS OS......Worth upgrading?
« Reply #81 on: January 14, 2014, 01:27:09 pm »
I believe there is a language barrier issue going on here.

Keep in mind that while Omnimaga is primarily an English speaking forum, we have many members whose first language was not English. It is possible that most people here aren't native English speakers.

It is very easy to cause confusion when not talking about programming and it is easy to insult people unintentionally. Stefos' post that kind of started it all was a post of frustration and I think it wasn't intended to insult anybody. However, it was insulting.

I think that due to the expectations Stefos' had, they have grown up in a culture where only one language is spoken, or if any other languages are present, it is always translated from English not to English. This could cause the naive expectation that non-English languages have a natural translation to English that can be easily completed by a computer, or anything other than oneself.

Something that is normally funny, but may be insulting here, is the following quote:
Quote from: Hot_Dog's Signature
There are people who can speak two languages, and they are called bilingual.  There are people who speak three languages and are therefore trilingual.  Then there are people who speak one language, and these people are called Americans.

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Re: New CX CAS OS......Worth upgrading?
« Reply #82 on: January 14, 2014, 01:44:18 pm »
Second, No I thought the page would change to English because I've experienced this on a foreign language forum,
which actually did change the entire page.........Histwar Les Grognards game site AND it's forum does this.
And you think all blonde girls are stupid because you met one stupid blonde girl. That is called discrimination. More seriously:
  • It is not because one site translates everything that every site should, otherwise, none would translate anything because there is one English website (Omnimaga) so every website would have to be in English.
  • The content on the forums on Histwar Les Grognards are not translated, they are only available in English. Only the buttons and the sentences such as "Welcome, Guest. Please login or register." are available in different languages. On the contrary on TI Planet, the content (which is why you need most, because even Google translate is enough to understand the few words on a button and browse a website) is translated, for most interesting news and tutorials.
  • TI Planet is not a website about a paid game. The people who made Histwar Les Grognards's website were paid to do it, so they did it, and they are going to earn even more money now that everyone can browse their website, while people who made TI Planet translated their content for free.
Look,

Your post sounds more like harassment & you've come across like a jerk.

Who asked for YOUR particular opinion?  Not me.

Thanks but I don't need your "insights"

Stefos
May I also point out that this is the internet, and a forum. You don't have to ask specific people for their opinion to get it.

If you feel like any member is acting inappropriately towards you or any other member instead of lashing out at them on the forum, please press the report to moderator link on the right side of the post and let the admins who run this site (ie: me) deal with this.
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Re: New CX CAS OS......Worth upgrading?
« Reply #83 on: January 19, 2014, 03:18:54 pm »
I believe there is a language barrier issue going on here.

Keep in mind that while Omnimaga is primarily an English speaking forum, we have many members whose first language was not English. It is possible that most people here aren't native English speakers.

It is very easy to cause confusion when not talking about programming and it is easy to insult people unintentionally. Stefos' post that kind of started it all was a post of frustration and I think it wasn't intended to insult anybody. However, it was insulting.

I think that due to the expectations Stefos' had, they have grown up in a culture where only one language is spoken, or if any other languages are present, it is always translated from English not to English. This could cause the naive expectation that non-English languages have a natural translation to English that can be easily completed by a computer, or anything other than oneself.

Something that is normally funny, but may be insulting here, is the following quote:
Quote from: Hot_Dog's Signature
There are people who can speak two languages, and they are called bilingual.  There are people who speak three languages and are therefore trilingual.  Then there are people who speak one language, and these people are called Americans.


You're right!

There is a language barrier but I won't go back to that website nor will I ask anyone a question here again openly.

I've never been so misunderstood and thrown under the bus in this way.

PM's from now on only!

Stefos

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Re: Re: New CX CAS OS......Worth upgrading?
« Reply #84 on: January 20, 2014, 01:12:05 pm »
Considering that most people (including many non-english-speaking people) prefer Omnimaga to other calc sites because they feel it's less hostile, and that they usually come back even after misunderstandings, I don't think that many people will agree with you here.

If you think Omnimaga members tries to throw people under the bus this much, imagine what it will be on calc forums where trolls are not banned.

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Re: New CX CAS OS......Worth upgrading?
« Reply #85 on: January 20, 2014, 01:18:44 pm »
Most people yes, but not everyone. Some people think that Omnimaga is repressive. For example you downrated me when I told aeTIos that he'd better work with Kindermoumoute rather than making another Worms clone of his own (that was a long time ago). I personally thought it was fair because it was said in the rules, it is for a greater good and you warned me when downrating me so it was more helpful than harmful, so I am fine with Omnimaga's rules. But some other people who were in a similar case thought it was unfair.

(if you wonder what I was talking about, here's the Worms topic).
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Re: New CX CAS OS......Worth upgrading?
« Reply #86 on: January 20, 2014, 07:21:33 pm »
Yeah someone called us a dictatorship a few times last month on IRC and in the past, some group from another calc IRC channel (that no longer exists as one) basically declared war against Omni for it >.<

As for the Worms thing, I think it was more because of how many time you said your stuff than the fact you said it, since we generally encourage people to work on original calc material and projects within their programming skills, while not insisting. But again this was almost during the nDoom policy days so I was more downvote (and tempban)-happy at that time. :P

Basically, the point is that if Omni tried to put people down like stefos tries to make it sound like, I don't think the people who prefer Omni for being friendlier would have stayed either. So in other words, it's not that bad, and incidents can happen everywhere (especially with that many members including ones who are used to their own site rules)


Maybe we should go back on the topic about how evil TI can be, though, with their anti-downgrades. (But again, there are like three or four downgrade help threads now)
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Re: New CX CAS OS......Worth upgrading?
« Reply #87 on: January 21, 2014, 08:20:46 pm »
Yeah someone called us a dictatorship a few times last month on IRC and in the past, some group from another calc IRC channel (that no longer exists as one) basically declared war against Omni for it >.<

As for the Worms thing, I think it was more because of how many time you said your stuff than the fact you said it, since we generally encourage people to work on original calc material and projects within their programming skills, while not insisting. But again this was almost during the nDoom policy days so I was more downvote (and tempban)-happy at that time. :P

Basically, the point is that if Omni tried to put people down like stefos tries to make it sound like, I don't think the people who prefer Omni for being friendlier would have stayed either. So in other words, it's not that bad, and incidents can happen everywhere (especially with that many members including ones who are used to their own site rules)


Maybe we should go back on the topic about how evil TI can be, though, with their anti-downgrades. (But again, there are like three or four downgrade help threads now)

DJ Omnimaga,

I never once said "Omni tried to put people down like stefos tries to make it sound like."

It's not this website but because of my not being extremely precise when posting, certain people
have decided to attack me......Yes, I view some of my posts as being attacked by others.

Instead of asking me, "Hey pal, what do you mean by X, Y, Z statement" an immediate "He's bashing me"
is assumed....Of course I did make a statement towards someone here openly....No denying that fact, as well as breaching this forums rules.  No denying that either.

As Eeems said " If you feel like any member is acting inappropriately towards you or any other member instead of lashing out at them on the forum, please press the report to moderator link on the right side of the post and let the admins who run this site (ie: me) deal with this."

So, I've never had a problem with you & As of now, have no problem with anyone here.........It's a moot point :)

For me, all is cool.......I intend to keep it that way.

Have a great day!
Stefos
« Last Edit: January 21, 2014, 08:23:00 pm by stefos »

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Re: New CX CAS OS......Worth upgrading?
« Reply #88 on: January 21, 2014, 11:11:03 pm »
Ok good to hear. Also if an user's behavior is deemed offensive, some admins might not deal with it publicly and will just try to reason the person via PM, so it's possible that you might not see if he was warned or not.

That said, it's a good thing that the new versions of SMF software (that Omni will eventually switch to) have an ignore feature that works on posts too. Currently, we can only ignore PMs (or disable our inbox) and their shoutbox messages, not forum posts. It can be handy if somebody has problems with an user, although if the admins/moderators are notified of issues, they can try to resolve it before ignoring is considered.

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Re: New CX CAS OS......Worth upgrading?
« Reply #89 on: January 22, 2014, 12:56:08 am »
Yes, I view some of my posts as being attacked by others.
Wait, Levak and I were not attacking you in any way. We were defending TI Planet.

I quote my post here so you don't even have to scroll to re-read it.

Second, No I thought the page would change to English because I've experienced this on a foreign language forum,
which actually did change the entire page.........Histwar Les Grognards game site AND it's forum does this.
And you think all blonde girls are stupid because you met one stupid blonde girl. That is called discrimination. More seriously:
  • It is not because one site translates everything that every site should, otherwise, none would translate anything because there is one English website (Omnimaga) so every website would have to be in English.
  • The content on the forums on Histwar Les Grognards are not translated, they are only available in English. Only the buttons and the sentences such as "Welcome, Guest. Please login or register." are available in different languages. On the contrary on TI Planet, the content (which is why you need most, because even Google translate is enough to understand the few words on a button and browse a website) is translated, for most interesting news and tutorials.
  • TI Planet is not a website about a paid game. The people who made Histwar Les Grognards's website were paid to do it, so they did it, and they are going to earn even more money now that everyone can browse their website, while people who made TI Planet translated their content for free.

The only time I mention you in my post is "And you think all blonde girls are stupid because you met one stupid blonde girl. That is called discrimination" (which is far from being as insulting as "You've come across like a jerk"), and it is followed by a "More seriously", which means that what I said about you was obviously false, that I knew it was false, that everyone here including you knew it was false, and it was just a way to show that your logic about translating websites couldn't be applied, which is what I precise with my three following points.

(And excuse my English, I am not an English native speaker so maybe my sentences don't fit my thoughts, but seriously, I never meant to attack you and I don't see where in my post you saw me attack you).
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