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Re: Nspire CAS+ not detected
« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2012, 10:59:47 pm »
Well, as a calc it should run just fine.

Why do you need to transfer files to and from the pc? There's not much to do with them once they're there, and there aren't any I'm aware of that you would send to the calc.
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Re: Nspire CAS+ not detected
« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2012, 04:31:29 am »
Quote from: alberthrocks on February 22, 2012, 09:09:38 pm
Quote from: improponibile on February 22, 2012, 06:47:15 pm
Yes to both questions, software downloaded and installed, and all usb devices working great.
You could possibly send this fun calc to critor for analysis... ;)
If you do decide to ship it to critor, he will likely pay the shipping for you, and maybe (tentatively :P) give you money for a new one :P
Still don't know if you are talking seriously or not.. :P

TI Cares answered this morning:
"Dear Customer,

Thank you for contacting Texas Instruments.

By looking at the provided serial number and the name of your model i can verify that you have a prototype calculator. Unfortunately this means that there's no way of enabling connectivity to transfer files or update the operating system. I'm sorry for the inconvenience and if you should have any further questions, please don't hesitate to contact me again. Thank you and have a nice day!"

Seems I should resign. :(

Quote from: willrandship on February 22, 2012, 10:59:47 pm
Well, as a calc it should run just fine.

Why do you need to transfer files to and from the pc? There's not much to do with them once they're there, and there aren't any I'm aware of that you would send to the calc.
I have some files by a friend's Texas Calculator that I would like to have on mine.



*UPDATE*
I did it!
On XP, the TI-Nspire was recognized as unknown driver, so I just update the calc's driver following these steps.
Now, that linking software posted before is working properly and I'm able to put stuff on and from the calculator.
Thank you so much everybody! :D
« Last Edit: February 23, 2012, 04:58:34 am by improponibile »
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Re: Nspire CAS+ not detected
« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2012, 05:22:34 am »
Quote from: improponibile on February 23, 2012, 04:31:29 am
Quote from: alberthrocks on February 22, 2012, 09:09:38 pm
Quote from: improponibile on February 22, 2012, 06:47:15 pm
Yes to both questions, software downloaded and installed, and all usb devices working great.
You could possibly send this fun calc to critor for analysis... ;)
If you do decide to ship it to critor, he will likely pay the shipping for you, and maybe (tentatively :P) give you money for a new one :P
Still don't know if you are talking seriously or not.. :P

According to the eBay photo, it's one of the CAS+ prototypes that were massively evaluated in schools in 2006-2007.
I don't need this calculator - it's nothing like rare.

Quote from: improponibile on February 23, 2012, 04:31:29 am
TI Cares answered this morning:
"Dear Customer,

Thank you for contacting Texas Instruments.

By looking at the provided serial number and the name of your model i can verify that you have a prototype calculator. Unfortunately this means that there's no way of enabling connectivity to transfer files or update the operating system. I'm sorry for the inconvenience and if you should have any further questions, please don't hesitate to contact me again. Thank you and have a nice day!"

Seems I should resign. :(


Wrong, connectivity to transfer CAS+ files works perfectly with the software I linked you.
When I say TI-Cares is not accurate and doesn't know what they are speaking of...

Last year, TI-Cares answered that for 80$, they could exchange you the prototype for a production model.
You should ask them about that.


Quote from: improponibile on February 23, 2012, 04:31:29 am
Quote from: willrandship on February 22, 2012, 10:59:47 pm
Well, as a calc it should run just fine.

Why do you need to transfer files to and from the pc? There's not much to do with them once they're there, and there aren't any I'm aware of that you would send to the calc.
I have some files by a friend's Texas Calculator that I would like to have on mine.

If it's not a CAS+ calculator, there is currently no way, more than 5 years after the CAS+ evaluation.
And it's unlikely that there will be such a possibility in the near future.



Quote from: improponibile on February 23, 2012, 04:31:29 am
*UPDATE*
I did it!
On XP, the TI-Nspire was recognized as unknown driver, so I just update the calc's driver following these steps.
Now, that linking software posted before is working properly and I'm able to put stuff on and from the calculator.
Thank you so much everybody! :D

You see that TI-Cares was wrong! :P
« Last Edit: February 23, 2012, 05:24:39 am by critor »
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Re: Nspire CAS+ not detected
« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2012, 05:26:30 am »
Just like critor says, no files can be read by the TI-Nspire, even if they are .tns themselves. It can read files only generated on the calc.
That's pretty bad.. :/

Quote from: critor on February 23, 2012, 05:22:34 am
Last year, TI-Cares answered that for 80$, they could exchange you the prototype for a production model.
You should ask them about that.
You serious? I'll give it a try as soon as possible. I'll let you know the answer (but I'm no optimistic).
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Re: Nspire CAS+ not detected
« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2012, 05:28:11 am »
A solution can probably be found after we've been able to dump the CAS+ Boot1 / Boot2 / OS.

But as far as we could try, the CAS+ seemed to be pretty well protected, and only a harware-dumping method seemed to be possible without knowing more on the OS.
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Re: Nspire CAS+ not detected
« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2012, 05:34:09 am »
Ok, so I'll try to be in touch with news about dumping this 1.0 OS..
If TI Cares answers, I'll let you know.
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Re: Nspire CAS+ not detected
« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2012, 07:24:44 pm »
I have a thought: Does anyone have any CAS+ .tns files? Inside they're just xml files on the older ones, and maybe a converter for CAS+ files to newer formats could be managed.
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Re: Nspire CAS+ not detected
« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2012, 07:40:03 pm »
Now that's a good idea. ALso it would be handy for those who got other OSes as well. I remember Lua games made for OS 3.0.1 using third-party tools didn't work on OS 3.0.2 for example and I think some old documents didn't open in newer OSes or vice-versa even if sometimes they didn't use any new feature.
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Re: Nspire CAS+ not detected
« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2012, 05:47:54 am »
Quote from: willrandship on February 23, 2012, 07:24:44 pm
I have a thought: Does anyone have any CAS+ .tns files? Inside they're just xml files on the older ones, and maybe a converter for CAS+ files to newer formats could be managed.
If it can be helpful, i can create a file on the CAS+ and send it to you. so you can handle it. I'm quite new in this kind of things.
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Re: Nspire CAS+ not detected
« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2012, 08:45:02 am »
If those calc's are not for sale, how does TI dump them on the market?  Don't you just love the way TI sets up unsuspecting customers for a bummer!
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Re: Nspire CAS+ not detected
« Reply #25 on: February 24, 2012, 08:56:53 am »
Quote from: Dingus on February 24, 2012, 08:45:02 am
If those calc's are not for sale, how does TI dump them on the market?  Don't you just love the way TI sets up unsuspecting customers for a bummer!
Yeah, really a good question..
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Re: Nspire CAS+ not detected
« Reply #26 on: February 24, 2012, 12:38:33 pm »
Quote from: Dingus on February 24, 2012, 08:45:02 am
If those calc's are not for sale, how does TI dump them on the market?  Don't you just love the way TI sets up unsuspecting customers for a bummer!
TI gave many to shop's and schools to test, and they put them on sale. But TI should have done something so this situation could not be possible.
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Re: Nspire CAS+ not detected
« Reply #27 on: February 24, 2012, 02:39:58 pm »
Yeah the issue was mainly TI trusting teachers and some employees too much and those finally decided to make money off the calcs, fooling people in the process.
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Re: Nspire CAS+ not detected
« Reply #28 on: February 24, 2012, 04:40:04 pm »
Not only "some" teachers, DJ_O.

Depening upon the school, the CAS+ weren't lent to the teacher, but to the students who could take them home and everything.
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Re: Nspire CAS+ not detected
« Reply #29 on: February 29, 2012, 11:14:22 pm »
I would like to see a CAS+ file, it might be interesting to see what's different. I would think that notes, at the very least, would convert fairly easily. Programs have a good shot too, since AFAIK TI hasn't removed any commands, just added some, and they're probably stored as plain text. Other parts, though, could e completely different. Who knows, maybe they completely redesigned the spreadsheet application.
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