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Re: What do you think can be improved on with the TI 84
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2014, 03:15:41 pm »
string and expr are awesome. expr's basically eval in other languages. For example: string(42)="42"; string({1,2,3})="{1,2,3}"; expr("42")=42; expr("{1,2,3}")={1,2,3}; expr("Q") (with Q being previously set)=<value of Q>; etc.
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Re: What do you think can be improved on with the TI 84
« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2014, 03:25:54 pm »
i always thought a numtostring command should've been implemented in the os but it's not (yay symbolic :D)
why isn't it exactly?
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Re: What do you think can be improved on with the TI 84
« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2014, 11:02:18 pm »
Quote from: TheCoder1998 on March 15, 2014, 03:25:54 pm
i always thought a numtostring command should've been implemented in the os but it's not (yay symbolic :D)
why isn't it exactly?
I don't know, ask TI.
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Re: What do you think can be improved on with the TI 84
« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2014, 12:23:05 am »
Considering how much effort they put into fixing the bugs reported last year and many other times via TI-Cares, good luck :P
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Re: What do you think can be improved on with the TI 84
« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2014, 12:37:07 am »
Yeah, TI really doesn't care about the programmer niche at all. Their biggest priority is keeping schools and testing agencies like the ACT and SAT happy. Can't say I blame them, but I can say I think they're going about it the wrong way. Why not make a verification tool that can show if an OS has been modified, for example, rather than simply locking down the OS installations and enforcing that lockdown with legal threats?
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Re: What do you think can be improved on with the TI 84
« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2014, 06:34:00 am »
Quote from: willrandship on March 16, 2014, 12:37:07 am
Why not make a verification tool that can show if an OS has been modified, for example, rather than simply locking down the OS installations and enforcing that lockdown with legal threats?

this is exactly what i thought
c'mon TI!
show us some love :mad:
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Re: What do you think can be improved on with the TI 84
« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2014, 11:49:34 am »
Quote from: willrandship on March 16, 2014, 12:37:07 am
Yeah, TI really doesn't care about the programmer niche at all. Their biggest priority is keeping schools and testing agencies like the ACT and SAT happy. Can't say I blame them, but I can say I think they're going about it the wrong way. Why not make a verification tool that can show if an OS has been modified, for example, rather than simply locking down the OS installations and enforcing that lockdown with legal threats?
they did legal threats? O.O
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Re: What do you think can be improved on with the TI 84
« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2014, 11:56:25 am »
Would you call a Cease and Desist letter anything else? They actually went to court over the signing keys, but thankfully the EFF offered to take the case, for free.
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Re: What do you think can be improved on with the TI 84
« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2014, 01:42:56 pm »
Oh right, I forgot about the RSA keys DMCA takedown notices (TI lost, thankfully). I thought that someone got a C&D for installing a third party OS on his calc or something.

I know around 2002 TI sent a C&D to someone who was developing a third-party OS, though.
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Re: What do you think can be improved on with the TI 84
« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2014, 04:29:25 pm »
TI should be happy IMO to have such a motivated community, but all they care about are stupid exams ._.
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Re: What do you think can be improved on with the TI 84
« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2014, 06:21:10 pm »
IMO the only thing that really needs improving for TI calcs is TI's attitude toward programming.

Oh, and also the price. $100 is too much for a z80-based system that doesn't even give you all the RAM you could have.
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Re: What do you think can be improved on with the TI 84
« Reply #26 on: March 20, 2014, 08:11:36 pm »
Well, at least, for the 84+CSE, they let it open to ASM programming. The new OS has extra protection for testguard, but it still has Asm/Flash apps support. It's just the Nspire that is the issue. It's like if they wanted their calcs to be locked down at all cost, but threw a bone at the community (called the TI-84+CSE) as an overpriced compromise.

Their greedyness doesn't help either. If they ever switch to an Ez80 for the CSE, even if it runs at 25 MHz they'll use that as an excuse to jack up the price by $30.
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