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What to do about the TI Nspire?
« on: June 26, 2013, 04:16:47 pm »
Hi. In August I am going to be starting AP Calculus and I want to get a TI-Nspire CX CAS. If I got one, I would want to put Ndless on it and play games. However, I heard that the new TI-Nspires are coming with an OS that doesn't allow you to downgrade or put Ndless on it. If I was to get an Nspire, should I get one now off of Ebay that maybe has an older OS, or do you guys think that in a month Ndless can be put on the 3.2.4 OS? And what about the CX Premium? I'm just wondering what to do for the upcoming school year so I can have the best calculator for games and all the cool calculator stuff you can do :P Thanks!
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Re: What to do about the TI Nspire?
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2013, 04:19:11 pm »
If you get one soon, it probably won't have the new OS yet.
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Re: What to do about the TI Nspire?
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2013, 05:02:41 pm »
When I got my cx, 3.2 was released ages ago and it still ran os 3.0.1 or something.
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Re: What to do about the TI Nspire?
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2013, 06:15:21 pm »
Keep in mind that if you buy it on Ebay, there are chances that it won't come with a working TI-Nspire Student Software license. I would stick with OS 3.1 unless your teacher forces you to upgrade. A new Ndless that runs on OS 3.2.4 and 3.6 is probably a few years off.
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Re: What to do about the TI Nspire?
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2013, 04:07:10 am »
Should I be expecting the CX Premium (or any other new Nspire) + Ndless to come out soon?
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Re: What to do about the TI Nspire?
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2013, 07:01:23 am »
Nope
(well, AFAIK)
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Re: What to do about the TI Nspire?
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2013, 10:27:52 am »
Quote from: aeTIos on June 26, 2013, 05:02:41 pm
When I got my cx, 3.2 was released ages ago and it still ran os 3.0.1 or something.
Same for me.
Anyway if you buy it new and it comes with 3.2.4 you can still downgrade, you just need a cheap USB-TTL adapter (prolly works with an Arduino UNO or a Raspberry Pi if you have one of these).
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Re: What to do about the TI Nspire?
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2013, 06:19:59 pm »
Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on June 26, 2013, 06:15:21 pm
Keep in mind that if you buy it on Ebay, there are chances that it won't come with a working TI-Nspire Student Software license. I would stick with OS 3.1 unless your teacher forces you to upgrade. A new Ndless that runs on OS 3.2.4 and 3.6 is probably a few years off.

You can of course always use TiLP ;)
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Re: What to do about the TI Nspire?
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2013, 12:08:23 am »
Yeah but I mean if he wanted to use the official emulator for any reason (such as the unnoficial one being a major PITA to setup >.<)
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Re: What to do about the TI Nspire?
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2013, 12:28:00 am »
Quote from: aeTIos on June 29, 2013, 06:19:59 pm
Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on June 26, 2013, 06:15:21 pm
Keep in mind that if you buy it on Ebay, there are chances that it won't come with a working TI-Nspire Student Software license. I would stick with OS 3.1 unless your teacher forces you to upgrade. A new Ndless that runs on OS 3.2.4 and 3.6 is probably a few years off.

You can of course always use TiLP ;)

For just calculator linking and filesharing, the TI-nspire Computer Link Sotware is free and works fine. However the TI-nspire drivers are not compatible with the TiLP ones, so you can only have one or the other.

But if you buy a new calculator, it should come with the Student Software License which has all the file transferring features of the Computer Link (though in a different looking interface), and much more.
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Re: What to do about the TI Nspire?
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2013, 12:49:53 am »
Now Ndless can run on OS3.1
OS3.2 and OS3.6 to be punished in September both can't install Ndless.
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Re: What to do about the TI Nspire?
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2013, 01:06:41 am »
The issue is that some teachers will force students to upgrade or some students who are not aware of the OS 3.2.4 and 3.6 issues will updrade and when they'll notice it will be too late. Ndless audience will once again decrease until the next Ndless update. >.<
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Re: What to do about the TI Nspire?
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2013, 01:17:41 am »
Oh one problem with the TI-nspire Computer Link Software is that it asks to install the latest version if it detects there is one. Which is currently 3.2.3.
I'm still running 3.1.0, and made sure it was TNOC'd. This is another problem, with people not aware of the anti-downgrading issues
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Re: What to do about the TI Nspire?
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2013, 02:32:29 am »
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or do you guys think that in a month Ndless can be put on the 3.2.4 OS?
Porting Ndless to a new OS version is a lot of work, and it had probably better be done on the future 3.6 OS than on this transition 3.2.4.1237 OS.
I think that the amount of work, the fact that all 3.2.x versions were long believed to be short-lived (due to their slowness and bugginess), and the fact that downgrading to OS 3.1.0.392 remained possible, all played a role in the fact that Ndless was never ported to OS 3.2.x versions, even after the advent of nLaunch, which (nearly) removed, for a while at least, the need to spend time looking for an exploit in the OS itself.

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For just calculator linking and filesharing, the TI-nspire Computer Link Sotware is free and works fine. However the TI-nspire drivers are not compatible with the TiLP ones, so you can only have one or the other.
I'm aware that you've been away from the community for a while, but FYI, the mutual incompatibility between TI's software and TILP on Windows (due to silly limitations of the platform) was fixed about two years ago.
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Re: What to do about the TI Nspire?
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2013, 04:57:28 am »
Quote from: imath on June 30, 2013, 12:49:53 am
Now Ndless can run on OS3.1
OS3.2 and OS3.6 to be punished in September both can't install Ndless.

Nice slip BTW :)
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