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Bill S.978 - The end of all video game streaming/let's plays
« on: July 03, 2011, 07:45:11 pm »


SOMETHING MUST BE DONE!!!  :(
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Re: Bill S.978 - The end of all video game streaming/let's plays
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2011, 07:47:39 pm »
Wow, somebody else watches X as well!
I think it's probably going to be changed to allow LP's before it's passed, there is a huge uproar in the states about it from what I can tell on Youtube.
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Re: Bill S.978 - The end of all video game streaming/let's plays
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2011, 07:50:20 pm »
really? can you show me some vid's ur referring to?
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Re: Bill S.978 - The end of all video game streaming/let's plays
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2011, 07:50:25 pm »
Indeed.

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Is the bill S.978 a joke or what? Seems pretty stupid.
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1. Or every video on youtube gets taken down, which will make youtube bankrupt.
2. Or every game company add a clause to allow such videos, therefore, rendering bill S.978 ineffective.
Either way, it's pretty stupid.
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Re: Bill S.978 - The end of all video game streaming/let's plays
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2011, 07:51:09 pm »
yeah i didn't think about the part where companies can add clauses

edit: notch will ^.^
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Re: Bill S.978 - The end of all video game streaming/let's plays
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2011, 07:52:03 pm »
Yeah, Notch will, I saw it on his blog.
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Re: Bill S.978 - The end of all video game streaming/let's plays
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2011, 07:57:50 pm »
Wat? Seriously? That goes a bit far... A felony? For posting footage?

I wonder if that could be extended to include animated calculator screenshots O.O
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Re: Bill S.978 - The end of all video game streaming/let's plays
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2011, 08:09:55 pm »
If we show any part of TI-OS, then technically yes.

Another law presented by lobbyists on a paycheck and under the control of people who don't understand the consequences.
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Re: Bill S.978 - The end of all video game streaming/let's plays
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2011, 08:14:24 pm »
Yay oppressive governmental bills!

It'll never take effect, though, 99% of videos featuring gameplay fall under fair use.
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Re: Bill S.978 - The end of all video game streaming/let's plays
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2011, 08:20:51 pm »
Because of how it's worded and this little snippet I found in the bill:

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‘(B)(i) the total retail value of the performances, or the total economic value of such public performances to the infringer or to the copyright owner, would exceed $2,500;

It basically says that if the copyright owner or the infringer made more that $2500 off the performances it's a felony.
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Re: Bill S.978 - The end of all video game streaming/let's plays
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2011, 08:29:45 pm »
I think the part about the copyright owner is meant to say that if they *lost* more than $2500 on the performance, not that they made that money off such a performance.
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Re: Bill S.978 - The end of all video game streaming/let's plays
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2011, 08:31:30 pm »
That has nothing about loss I'm afraid. I directly copied it (with adding the bold) From my interpretation if the copyright owner made $$$ off of it, it's still a felony. :S
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Re: Bill S.978 - The end of all video game streaming/let's plays
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2011, 08:32:31 pm »
So you can't make money on game footage? Well it's kinda better now. I think. I think I need a lawyer to get this explained.
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Re: Bill S.978 - The end of all video game streaming/let's plays
« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2011, 08:47:18 pm »
I can see how this would be a tricky thing to decide for lawmakers, courts, etc. On one hand, it's your computer that is generating the graphics, on the other, it uses the copyrighted assets of the video game to do so. If this was passed, though, I could see many video game companies giving their customers the right to make lets plays automatically, probably through the EULAs.
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Re: Bill S.978 - The end of all video game streaming/let's plays
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2011, 08:49:10 pm »
Quote from: HOMER-16 on July 03, 2011, 08:31:30 pm
That has nothing about loss I'm afraid. I directly copied it (with adding the bold) From my interpretation if the copyright owner made $$$ off of it, it's still a felony. :S

That's a misleading interpretation, then. The bill concerns copyright infringement. The copyright owner can't infringe upon their own copyright.
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