... i dont really understand why people always have to debate this. its basic, heres the answer: no one truly cares what other people think on this subject, at least not enough to make any difference, if they believe in absolutes then they wont change and if they're close enough in the middle to go to the other side then it really doesnt matter. all that happens is that the people who feel that gays are satan incarnate go crazy and the people who belive that man on x sex is an unalienable right, just spaz right back. and there will always be these two groups, just like there will always be people who love/hate african americans.

having said that im going to keep my opinion on this to myself because i dont fool myself into thinking that anyone will change with it or even that anyone cares.




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255 posts because such numbers should be recognized more than the thousands in a calc progging community

true, if church doesn't want to approve gay marriage or if they want to approve it, it's their own business, not government business. I personally find any arguments against homosexuality invalid when they are based on religious views though, because lot of people have different religion, and some are atheist, meaning their view on this are different than with catholic people. This is why I would disagree with lordofthegeeks here. Homosexuality is unnatural and abnormal, because it's different, but it shouldn't be seen as heinous crime, because everyone is free to do whatever they want providing it doesn't violate law.

What the f*** is up with all those gay parades though? This is just stupid, why not a Barney fan parade while at it?

i know, my post was more directed at lordofthegeeks though


and congrats for 255 posts, now you became an assembly program. jk

only thing you need to understand though is that it's not all gay people who does this, the ones who participate to those parades seems to want attention, but there is lot of gay people who just ask to be respected, no more discriminations. Some gay people won't disturb other people with their stuff, they just tell they are gay, and it's not their fault if they were born this way. Which is why i disagree that it's totally wrong. Lordofthegeeks, please quit bringning religion everywhere in debates. I think you alerady should know that the last time you did nobody appreciated. Religion can't just be brought on the internet, because it is too controversial as a subject. In the first place, this topic had nothing to do with religion anyway.

The government shouldn't deal with a lot of things, but it is total bulls**t if you think a country could survive without a government so personally I don't give a f**k. The government is hot on Rockstar's tail for the Manhunt 2 release, because as you have heard they had to cut a majority of their game due to "violations". The thing is that Rockstar just tells the truth about life. So with that...

Are people scared of seeing, and admitting what really happens in life? You can't post pictures about 9/11 without people tell you that you are a f**king idiot, and you are insulting the families.

Telling the truth is an insult?

Point is, people don't like to deal with life in actuality. We can't make a game about sex, and not have it banned, although that same 13 year old who plays the game is probably going to go out and have sex either way.

Defending things with the bible really isn't something that should be done.

How can you protest Resistance Fall of Man with the bible? and say it is immoral and insensitive to the future.

My point being, religion/church should be separated from anything that doesn't explicitly have to deal with religion/church.

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Don't say a f**king debate won't change anything. If that was what the whole world thought, then what happened at Jena Six?

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The government shouldn't deal with a lot of things, but it is total bulls**t if you think a country could survive without a government so personally I don't give a f**k. The government is hot on Rockstar's tail for the Manhunt 2 release, because as you have heard they had to cut a majority of their game due to "violations". The thing is that Rockstar just tells the truth about life. So with that... Are people scared of seeing, and admitting what really happens in life? You can't post pictures about 9/11 without people tell you that you are a f**king idiot, and you are insulting the families. Telling the truth is an insult? Point is, people don't like to deal with life in actuality. We can't make a game about sex, and not have it banned, although that same 13 year old who plays the game is probably going to go out and have sex either way. Defending things with the bible really isn't something that should be done. How can you protest Resistance Fall of Man with the bible? and say it is immoral and insensitive to the future. My point being, religion/church should be separated from anything that doesn't explicitly have to deal with religion/church. EDIT: Don't say a f**king debate won't change anything. If that was what the whole world thought, then what happened at Jena Six?

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It's not the bible, it's fricking ESRB. They hate rockstar remember? The bible had nothing to do with it as I recall. At most a few people may have used it as an excuse to agree with ESRB but that's it. Personally I <3 GTA =)

did they really banned games from USA? o.o