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Is this true about America?
« on: March 24, 2013, 12:13:34 pm »
There were some students in my Russian class who had some problems with the way I taught.  But instead of bringing their problems to me, they brought their problems to one of their friends, who would share the problem with me and not disclose who the others were.  This is quite appropriate in Russia.

Even though it could happen in America, from what I know it's not appropriate, especially in business.  Am I correct?  I want to address this to my students who hope to do business in America.

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Re: Is this true about America?
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2013, 02:23:38 pm »
This seems very typical of Quebec, or at least the area where I live of Quebec. Basically, people are too afraid of telling what they think in your face, so they complain to their friends in your back then eventually someone else repeats it to you.

Over here it's more common in rural areas or with older jobless people who lived with social problems and poor parental education for most of their lives. Sadly the latter group often like to start false rumors about other people or repeat things they shouldn't just to cause troubles to others and to break relationships. It isn't very looked upon over here because a lot of people do it but in many cases with teachers, for serious issues like you state if you don't complain yourself to a teacher and instead get a friend to do it, the teacher might ignore the complain in case it isn't true that you said it.

Another issue over here is if a complain is only taken into account if multiple other people complain: Basically, they'll try to get together to make their complain but they will not even bother talking when it's time to complain, only letting you do their work. As a result, the complain isn't taken into account.

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Re: Is this true about America?
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2013, 02:56:02 pm »
It depends where your at in the US.
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Re: Is this true about America?
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2013, 03:14:03 pm »
Maybe it's that the relationship between students and teachers in the US is a lot more casual than in most other places in the world (or so I've heard, mostly from exchange students). Don't really know though.




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Re: Is this true about America?
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2013, 03:47:28 pm »
Maybe it's that the relationship between students and teachers in the US is a lot more casual than in most other places in the world (or so I've heard, mostly from exchange students). Don't really know though.

This is very true. At the beginning of college courses, we have to let students know that they should not hesitate to come speak with us in private if they feel that there is a problem. While this is geared towards all students, it is largely to set cultural expectations for exchange students (especially from Eastern countries), where it is considered powerfully rude to do so.

That being said, in business settings, there is a fine line that must be walked. Being too forward is viewed as being overly confrontational, aggressive, or dominating in a group setting, while saying nothing or discussing problems with friends is seen as weak, rude, or conspiratorial.

My best advice is to let students know that typical American discourse encourages that everyone is able to openly state their concerns in a calm, composed, and formal fashion at least once.