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Re: Political party?
« Reply #30 on: September 18, 2011, 12:29:44 am »
Careful with your generalizations there, boot ;)

1: I haven't noticed any cuts in my school that the school themselves did not intend to cut.
2: No, SOME of them are pushing to censor TV and radio more than what it is now.
3: Since when did republicans want a theocracy?
4: Where did you hear that? And wasn't it Obama and the democrats who gave billions of dollars to banks in hopes of a trickle-down effect when it obviously wouldn't work that way (and didn't), when a trickle-up effect is what would've been better?
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Re: Political party?
« Reply #31 on: September 18, 2011, 12:32:29 am »
Hell. Democrats if anyone like making cuts to schools. My governor cut a LOT of money (not sure exactly how much) from schools saying it might "inspire them to do better". This caused the cut of at least 20 staff members at my school. If anything came out of this, schools in my area are now doing worse.

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Re: Political party?
« Reply #32 on: September 18, 2011, 12:36:14 am »
This topic is now locked until further notice due to flaming. Seriously guys isn't the whole idea of government that even though we have have different ideas we cooperate for a higher common purpose. If we're going to start bashing other political parties then the discussion will have to stop.

Edit: I'm unlocking the topic now but everyone must keep their comments civil. Please try to avoid bashing other parties, groups, and/or beliefs because otherwise this will lead to major conflicts and we don't want that. A debate about which party is better won't change anyone's opinions so we need to respect that. As long as everyone can honor these terms this topic will remain unlocked.
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Re: Political party?
« Reply #33 on: September 18, 2011, 02:43:31 am »
Now I have to rewrite my post completely O.O :'(

Hold on... (I wrote it, but got ninja-lock'd D:, although it's ok)

EDIT actyually I'M gonna keep it shorter since maybe some stuff I wanted to say might have been bashing.

I personally would have been democrat if I was american around 2010, since I was not into the whole putting so much money into war thing that Bush did and also how screwed up the economy got, but now I see with democrats it isn't that much better so I can't make up an opinion for myself about which one I'm more siding with.

As for canadian politics I don't care much now since we did not have much issues with our current government, although I wish he would put money into stuff that is more necessary than those F-35 jets that will cost $9 billion total.

IMHO regardless of the party that gets elected, it isn't necessarily gonna be any better. Some stuff will be much better, but others will become worse.
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Re: Political party?
« Reply #34 on: September 18, 2011, 05:17:59 am »
2: No, SOME of them are pushing to censor TV and radio more than what it is now.
Any governmental censorship is bad, imo. I don't like the idea of someone else deciding that something is unsuitable for me.

4: Where did you hear that? And wasn't it Obama and the democrats who gave billions of dollars to banks in hopes of a trickle-down effect when it obviously wouldn't work that way (and didn't), when a trickle-up effect is what would've been better?

Nope, Bush signed that one in.
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Re: Political party?
« Reply #35 on: September 18, 2011, 05:35:33 am »
4: Where did you hear that? And wasn't it Obama and the democrats who gave billions of dollars to banks in hopes of a trickle-down effect when it obviously wouldn't work that way (and didn't), when a trickle-up effect is what would've been better?

Prove that a trickle-up would have been better.

This caused the cut of at least 20 staff members at my school. If anything came out of this, schools in my area are now doing worse.

Much as I understand that those teachers probably weren't dead weight based on cuts I've seen elsewhere, please prove (or at least show evidence) that the cuts weren't beneficial overall.

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Thanks for putting in the "IMO" part. That's how people should be phrasing their opinions [in my opinion].
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Re: Political party?
« Reply #36 on: September 18, 2011, 06:09:04 am »
Well, here in my country, if I make the conversion to USA-Politics I would be a Conservative (I don't understand USA-Politics by the way).

I think it's up to everybody to choose whether they want to have a political party, defend it and work on it (thus trying to lead a better future) or to not have a political party and say that having one political party is usually a bad idea.
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Re: Political party?
« Reply #37 on: September 18, 2011, 10:44:58 am »
@Netham, they always try to censor things more than what they already are, especially video games, but it never really works out lol. And you got me on the Bush thing :P

@Qwerty, I can't "prove" it, per se, but I think it would work a lot better. Give money to the mom-and-pop businesses. They buy goods/services from other companies, who in turn do the same with larger companies, so on so forth. That, to me, sounds a lot better than giving money to banks and car dealerships who ended laying people off and giving their CEOs benefits :/

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Re: Political party?
« Reply #38 on: September 18, 2011, 11:31:12 am »
I know plenty of republicans and democrats that try not to incorporate religion into politics
I know plenty that do
Um, also, about the economy and whatnot, I am with DJ_O on that one. When Bush jr. became president, I was just becoming aware of politics (I was 8?) and by the time I was 16, half of my life was spent under Republican rule and ideals. Naturally I saw how screwed up the economy was getting and decided to blame it on Bush and the republicans because that was who was in power. However, when Obama came into power and things haven't managed to get fixed and there are still problems and people can't support their families, I realised that it wasn't entirely Bush's fault or Obama's, it was just a political fault.

In tenth grade, I decided to read up on some social and economic ideas and this included books like the Communist Manifesto. What I learned from that is that while many things seem good on paper, they often don't work out as planned in practice. Whenever I hear people make a strong statement about how things should be done or how they should have been done, I want to point out:
-Hindsight is twenty-twenty. It is always easier to see old mistakes than to predict or anticipate new ones
-Instead of providing a political opinion, come up with a political solution and apply it. If you can do that, you can lead a nation and anybody will follow your ideals.

Sorry if my two cents aren't worth anything :/ This economy just isn't helping

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Re: Political party?
« Reply #39 on: September 18, 2011, 11:39:35 am »
...while many things seem good on paper, they often don't work out as planned in practice.
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-Hindsight is twenty-twenty. It is always easier to see old mistakes than to predict or anticipate new ones
-Instead of providing a political opinion, come up with a political solution and apply it. If you can do that, you can lead a nation and anybody will follow your ideals.

Agreed.

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Re: Political party?
« Reply #40 on: September 18, 2011, 11:42:05 am »
:D Also, I would like to point out that I am glad there are people interested in their government! I know too many people that just don't care unless they need to blame something or someone :)

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Re: Political party?
« Reply #41 on: September 18, 2011, 11:51:38 am »
Hey blakpillar, that's why I said democrats aren't much better.
I'm not worried about SOPA creating censorship, that will not stand for long. I'm worried that they'll succeed in stopping piracy!

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Re: Political party?
« Reply #42 on: September 18, 2011, 12:05:08 pm »
I identify myself as a Republican, but really, I'm a fiscal conservative and a social liberal (idk what that is).

I'd imagine that the economic issues you lean more towards being a conservative. And with social issues, you are closer to being liberal.
Sorry for being unclear D:
I meant that I didn't know what the political term for that is.

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Re: Political party?
« Reply #43 on: September 18, 2011, 12:13:20 pm »
@boot, it's "BlakPilar" lol. I intentionally misspelled it :P but I was just saying be careful with your harsh generalizations; they can be considered bashing and/or flaming.

@pianoman, maybe tea-partyist? I believe they're a type of liberal republican.

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Re: Political party?
« Reply #44 on: September 18, 2011, 12:24:54 pm »
I think that really, mainstream reps and democrats are not so great. I have an inkling that they are actually going towards the same goal, and if they aren't, they are going to have a very hard time fixing this country. If I had to bet my money on one person, I would pick Ron Paul. And he might not even be able to do it. And I also disagree with the "pick any conservative, just get Obama out of office" theory. We have to be very careful, because our country is hanging in a very delicate balance.


Now, just because I support Ron Paul does not mean I am a 9/11 truther etc., etc.

And this subject is very delecate, I understand, so if the admin deems it necessary, go ahead and edit my post.



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