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Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
« Reply #105 on: June 26, 2010, 09:53:20 pm »
I had a similar situation(I wasn't caught looking at porn, it was just on my computer too much for their tastes.)

My way around it was to pay for my own computer, but it sounds like that might not work for your parents. I got a job at King Soopers pretty much to buy myself a computer.
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Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
« Reply #106 on: June 26, 2010, 10:06:08 pm »
Thats sad :( Not so much the punishments, but the reasons (read: none) and the careless destruction of projects :( Well we're glad your back for now, and we hope you can continue to be on here!  I hope you can come to terms with your parents, although it sounds like that might be hard :(

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Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
« Reply #107 on: June 26, 2010, 10:46:36 pm »
On second thought, maybe Kevin's "Nazi" comparison was fairly accurate after all. :P

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Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
« Reply #108 on: June 26, 2010, 11:03:12 pm »
Thanks for explaining SirCmpwn, now I understand the situation better. Maybe at the time the punishments were fair (when you looked at porn), but today, I feel it is abuse (if you cannot even say the word programming without getting threatened and if they try to take away everything you like) and IMHO, as soon as you turn 18 and finish hi school, move out. Try to save some money to make it easier and in case your parents would retaliate by firing you from your job and that you had to find another, and when you get another job, do not give your old job as reference, in case your parents talk shit in your back to your new boss. I wouldn't mind helping out financially if I am still able to get here next year, altough I wouldn't be able to tell how much because currency exchange rates can vary a lot from a time to another and we never know what can happen.

Also I doN't remember if I said it in this topic or via e-mail but you have a lot of people here who care about you and I do not notice it only on the forums or in public on the IRC channel. People keep asking me if I got news from you whenever I am on IRC or OmnomIRC.

I wish you good luck at home for now and for when you will move out.

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Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
« Reply #109 on: June 27, 2010, 02:35:06 am »
Thanks for the support, guys.
I think I'm done fielding questions about this for a while, it was pretty rough getting this all out there.

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Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
« Reply #110 on: June 27, 2010, 06:02:55 am »
Pardon, but I'd like to pull out some key legal issues that come about in some of DJ Omnimaga's earlier post of which SirCmpwn could take legal action against if such events occured:

1)...Try to save some money to make it easier and in case your parents would retaliate by firing you from your job and that you had to find another...
2)...and when you get another job, do not give your old job as reference, in case your parents talk shit in your back to your new boss...

For the the first key issue, if they would retaliate by firing you, there may be some legal action onto which you can use to fight back with. I say 'may' because most in most states the employer can fire you at any given time for any reason unless the state specifically forbids "at will" terminations(I'm not sure if California does or not), or it breaches either employment policy or a contract you may be in(whether it be written, oral, or implied).
NOTE: Also to add onto what DJ Omnimaga was saying, if they give you a choose in the matter as to weather you are fired or you quit, it may be best to choose to be fired, since if you just quit and you file for unemployment, it will be rejected.

For the second key issue, it is actually illegal and you can bring them to trial for doing so. It would fall under the "Defamation, Libel and Slander" law and they could most certainly be taken to court for doing so. Although there are ways to get around this unfortunetly by 'hinting' onto things, and not actually 'telling' the employer. All-in-All it may just be a good idea to not add them to the references, but if you do and this issue does arise, know you do have a legal course of action.

I wish you the best of luck SirCmpwn, and may the ~year time from your graduation be a short one  ;)

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Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
« Reply #111 on: June 27, 2010, 08:29:00 am »
If your parents are continuosly blocking your internet access, you could use a USB version of Ubuntu Linux with TILP installed.

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Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
« Reply #112 on: June 27, 2010, 11:59:22 am »
Thank you for explaining Sir.  We all feel your pain. :(

I hope your parents will eventually become reasonable, but unfortunately I do not believe that will happen.  I'd attempt to give you some advice, but I can not come up with anything I'd do that you don't already do.  I wish you a lot of luck with dealing with your parents.  Remember there is no one at Omni who can justify what they're doing and we all want you to succeed. :)

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Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
« Reply #113 on: June 27, 2010, 01:54:04 pm »
Pardon, but I'd like to pull out some key legal issues that come about in some of DJ Omnimaga's earlier post of which SirCmpwn could take legal action against if such events occured:

1)...Try to save some money to make it easier and in case your parents would retaliate by firing you from your job and that you had to find another...
2)...and when you get another job, do not give your old job as reference, in case your parents talk shit in your back to your new boss...

For the the first key issue, if they would retaliate by firing you, there may be some legal action onto which you can use to fight back with. I say 'may' because most in most states the employer can fire you at any given time for any reason unless the state specifically forbids "at will" terminations(I'm not sure if California does or not), or it breaches either employment policy or a contract you may be in(whether it be written, oral, or implied).
NOTE: Also to add onto what DJ Omnimaga was saying, if they give you a choose in the matter as to weather you are fired or you quit, it may be best to choose to be fired, since if you just quit and you file for unemployment, it will be rejected.

For the second key issue, it is actually illegal and you can bring them to trial for doing so. It would fall under the "Defamation, Libel and Slander" law and they could most certainly be taken to court for doing so. Although there are ways to get around this unfortunetly by 'hinting' onto things, and not actually 'telling' the employer. All-in-All it may just be a good idea to not add them to the references, but if you do and this issue does arise, know you do have a legal course of action.

I wish you the best of luck SirCmpwn, and may the ~year time from your graduation be a short one  ;)
Aaah, seems good. Btw he lives in Colorado. I hope the laws about that applies there. Over here, I think there are laws about that but it's hard to get proof. The only way to detect if your boss will slander you to prevent you from getting any other job is to get somebody else to call them for references about you or do it yourself with modified voice (filling each side of your mouth with wadding). Some bosses are so bad that when you want to leave the job, they get frustrated because they think you are abandonning them and take revenge with slander.

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Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
« Reply #114 on: June 28, 2010, 03:32:21 am »
And you get the 'golden handshake' when fired :P

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Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
« Reply #115 on: June 28, 2010, 03:38:50 am »
what do you mean? o.o I never heard that expression before I think.

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Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
« Reply #116 on: June 28, 2010, 04:57:23 am »
(I actually didn't know whether it existed in English at all, but...)

It's basically an expression for the premium you get when you are fired by your employer.

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Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
« Reply #117 on: June 28, 2010, 05:50:10 am »
This has become much clearer now.

SirCmpwn, have you tried to build a good relationship with your parents?
Maybe you think it is too late now that you have 18 (or close) and you have been fighting many years. The second reason is better.
Or you have an impetuous personality (a possibility I don't know you well enough, but I know from my own experience how hard it can be) that makes you unable to control in a situations intense for you. (it is your life and hobbies)

But I understand your parents, they seem like the kind of parents that want their kids to be well succeeded. Probably they just want you to work harder because you they know you are a smart guy and you loose too many time on hobbies and you can't control yourself sometimes. Plus if they work hard, they don't like a son with few motivation on studies.

But your parents are also the kind of parents that don't hear your opinion. If by any chance they start to hear you after you are responsible to them, it would be worth your effort. Step back from some of your projects for a while. Keep the band and exits with friends, for example. ;) You have a long life ahead and at least maintaining some friendly ship with your parents will make your life much more stable. (it is even advantageous for your projects) Seeing some thrust of them in 3 to 6 months seems reasonable. If you can get an agreement with them would be good, but your parents seem the total control type so there the is the possibility for them do not want for you get back on some things.
If you ever tried something like this, did you make some mistake?

I could not avoid smile and laugh a bit thinking on USA view on legal actions. Some books "cartoonize" like it is your national sport, preferable hobby or something. At least is better than having afraid of starting legal actions.
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Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
« Reply #118 on: June 28, 2010, 11:15:35 am »
It doesn't sound like his parents would concede - they're just too reactionary.

IMO, I think his best bet is to play along until he's 18, then immediately move out and estrange himself. (although, he could seek emancipation if he has a convincing case) It might be financially tedious, but he could look into income-based housing, dormitories, or other options. If you're a student, the government will do its best to help you out financially. If you're going to a college with relatively low tuition and apply for financial aid, you could possibly have enough left over to live on. It all depends on how quickly he wants to claim independence from his parents.

I have a friend who went this route. His parents were trying to arrange for him to go to specific schools, tried to control pretty much every aspect of his social life and even tried to arrange for a girlfriend. Since he couldn't make any other move without having to deal with consequences at home, he packed his bags, ran off to another state and went to a local school. He may not be getting the best quality education, but at least he has his freedom.
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Re: SirCmpwn not(C parents blocked Omnimaga again
« Reply #119 on: June 28, 2010, 11:25:06 am »
There is income-based housing in USA too? Seems good. Is it just for poor families with kids, though? Over here, for example, if I decided to live alone, I would be under the seal of poverty (barely), but because there are so few places left for such homes (3-4 years waiting list), they give priority to people who are into worse situations than me (example: monoparental family with no job and two kids to feed). There are also places now that are for people under seal of poverty but not as much. Those places have waiting lists too, though.

One thing I hope when you turn 18 SirCmpwn is that your parents won't try to prevent you from moving out, continuing to control your life. If it's the case, what I suggest is to call the police and report them. If they won't let you use the home phone, try to text somebody who live to the west in USA while your parents don't notice, like a friend, give him your exact address, so he can call the police for you or try to get you out of the home so you can do so.