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Re: This cyberbullying thing from the democrats is stupid
« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2011, 06:37:06 pm »
Quote from: BrownyTCat on October 05, 2011, 05:32:51 pm
Internet politics? This can't turn out well...
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Re: This cyberbullying thing from the democrats is stupid
« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2011, 06:58:54 pm »
I thought government papers were supposed to be intelligent. (If only) Now they are blaming cyberbullying, which happens to
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Forty-two percent of kids
for
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blamed for nearly a dozen teen suicides
Oh no!!! out of the forty percent of kids that are cyberbullied,
not even twelve have committed suicide because of it!!!
Not only is that a disproportionately small number to be statistically reliable, but almost all of those children probably were to mentally unstable to be on the internet in the first place. They would have committed suicide if they never touched the internet.

Besides using unreliable and flimsy statistical data, it sounds like it was written by a ten year old. Here are some highlights:
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AS ONE AUTHOR SO CLEVERLY NOTED:
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parents claim was yeas of bullying...
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GOES WAY BEYOND...
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FOR ONE, CYBERBULLYING HAS NO...
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THE TIME FOR LEGISLATIVE ACTION IS NOW.  THE TIME FOR GREATER
AWARENESS IS NOW.

This essay has no more refined language than anything you could find in a ten year old's papaer for school. I honestly do not think this "man" (I think it is actually a ten year old) has any position in politics. We need to weed out the dumb ones. THE TIME FOR GREATER AWARENESS IS NOW.
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Re: This cyberbullying thing from the democrats is stupid
« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2011, 07:03:25 pm »
Small numbers seem to have some sort of theme in life.  I remember how people started calling the Swine Flu an "epidemic" after it killed something like 5 out of a population of a few million...

And I wonder what difference they thought it would make using all caps, lol
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Re: This cyberbullying thing from the democrats is stupid
« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2011, 07:05:55 pm »
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Oh no!!! out of the forty percent of kids that are cyberbullied,
not even twelve have committed suicide because of it!!!
Not only is that a disproportionately small number to be statistically reliable, but almost all of those children probably were to mentally unstable to be on the internet in the first place. They would have committed suicide if they never touched the internet.

That's getting into a bit of a touchy subject, but you do have a point. They may have been mentally unstable. I'd like to see the relationship between IRL bullying suicides and Cyberbullying ones. All in all, its not all that big a deal. Teachers need to learn the warning signs of dangerous levels of bullying and parents need to learn how to better raise their children, because that's precisely where it all originates.
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Re: This cyberbullying thing from the democrats is stupid
« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2011, 07:10:02 pm »
Yeah, maybe I went too far...
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Re: This cyberbullying thing from the democrats is stupid
« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2011, 07:56:04 pm »
For some reason I feel like this topic should be in spam...
but who am I to say that kind of stuff? :P
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Re: This cyberbullying thing from the democrats is stupid
« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2011, 08:32:58 pm »
Quote from: boot2490 on October 05, 2011, 06:58:54 pm
Oh no!!! out of the forty percent of kids that are cyberbullied,
not even twelve have committed suicide because of it!!!
Not only is that a disproportionately small number to be statistically reliable, but almost all of those children probably were to mentally unstable to be on the internet in the first place. They would have committed suicide if they never touched the internet.
I believe I understand the point you were trying to make, but I found this comment rather offensive, considering my sister has bipolar. She seems to be OK now, but she was fairly unstable a while back, and was bullied at her old middle school.
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Re: This cyberbullying thing from the democrats is stupid
« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2011, 08:46:14 pm »
Quote from: Darl181 on October 05, 2011, 07:03:25 pm
Small numbers seem to have some sort of theme in life.  I remember how people started calling the Swine Flu an "epidemic" after it killed something like 5 out of a population of a few million...

And I wonder what difference they thought it would make using all caps, lol

H1N1 was huge though.  I had a sever case and it was extremely bad.
A couple of points.
* It was a killer, but as all countries were more prepared, few died.
* It caught quickly, spread quickly, and affected quickly.  Thus hospitals were in serious trouble.
* The only reason it didn't seem as bad as it was made out to be is because it affected people fast enough that they didn't have much time to spread it.

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Re: This cyberbullying thing from the democrats is stupid
« Reply #23 on: October 05, 2011, 08:50:50 pm »
I'm sorry Finale. I need to think harder about what I post.
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Re: This cyberbullying thing from the democrats is stupid
« Reply #24 on: October 05, 2011, 09:00:57 pm »
Quote from: Happybobjr on October 05, 2011, 08:46:14 pm
Quote from: boot2490 on October 05, 2011, 07:10:02 pm
Yeah, maybe I went too far...
Few people have the guts to say that.  I find that admirable.
I have to agree.

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I'm sorry Finale. I need to think harder about what I post.
I know you didn't mean anything bad by it. Just keep things like that in mind in the future, and I'm sure you'll be fine.
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Re: This cyberbullying thing from the democrats is stupid
« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2011, 10:41:33 pm »
One thing to keep in mind though is that with cyberbullying it's easier to avoid it than regular bullying IRL. At least online, if you run into a cyberbully you can simply close the browser tab then go elsewhere or block him, without any fear of IRL retaliation. IRL, the bully is in front of you, and you can't just go back, as he'll just follow you. The problem with cyberbullying is when someone is also bullied a lot IRL or some things prevents him from meeting any decent people and getting a social life outside the internet. In my case for example all I got as people I can consider as friend in real life is one single person. The others are people I prefer to not hang out with regularly, because they're not very trustable and they do not respect others that much.
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Re: This cyberbullying thing from the democrats is stupid
« Reply #26 on: October 06, 2011, 04:51:36 am »
Quote from: FinaleTI on October 05, 2011, 08:32:58 pm
Quote from: boot2490 on October 05, 2011, 06:58:54 pm
Oh no!!! out of the forty percent of kids that are cyberbullied,
not even twelve have committed suicide because of it!!!
Not only is that a disproportionately small number to be statistically reliable, but almost all of those children probably were to mentally unstable to be on the internet in the first place. They would have committed suicide if they never touched the internet.
I believe I understand the point you were trying to make, but I found this comment rather offensive, considering my sister has bipolar. She seems to be OK now, but she was fairly unstable a while back, and was bullied at her old middle school.

I don't see what the issue is, all he did was state statistics.
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Re: This cyberbullying thing from the democrats is stupid
« Reply #27 on: October 06, 2011, 05:54:20 am »
Quote from: samebull on October 06, 2011, 04:51:36 am
Quote from: FinaleTI on October 05, 2011, 08:32:58 pm
Quote from: boot2490 on October 05, 2011, 06:58:54 pm
Oh no!!! out of the forty percent of kids that are cyberbullied,
not even twelve have committed suicide because of it!!!
Not only is that a disproportionately small number to be statistically reliable, but almost all of those children probably were to mentally unstable to be on the internet in the first place. They would have committed suicide if they never touched the internet.
I believe I understand the point you were trying to make, but I found this comment rather offensive, considering my sister has bipolar. She seems to be OK now, but she was fairly unstable a while back, and was bullied at her old middle school.

I don't see what the issue is, all he did was state statistics.
While he did state statistics, he also made a generalization about mentally unstable people. My sister was very unstable at one point, we had to admit her to a hospital twice, and I was very worried she would hurt herself. I may have overreacted slightly, but I don't appreciate people making generalizations about those with mental instabilities, because of everything I saw my sister go through.
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Re: This cyberbullying thing from the democrats is stupid
« Reply #28 on: October 06, 2011, 08:55:08 pm »
Yeah I agree with FinaleTI. Samebull please do not be so narrow-minded, else you will not be liked much around here.
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Re: This cyberbullying thing from the democrats is stupid
« Reply #29 on: October 09, 2011, 09:25:00 pm »
Quote from: DJ_O on October 06, 2011, 08:55:08 pm
Yeah I agree with FinaleTI. Samebull please do not be so narrow-minded, else you will not be liked much around here.

whoa whoa whoa, I'M narrow minded?

It just makes sense, if you're going to commit suicide because someone was mean to you online, you sort of HAVE to be mentally unstable if you couldn't figure out getting offline. I suppose you could say you didn't like his tone, but it kind of sounds like a personal problem, because frankly there was no real generalization when the numbers are present and the test case is less than twelve.
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