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Title: MTV Music Generator <> MUSIC Creation software differences accross countries
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on March 07, 2012, 02:41:45 am
Sometimes there are users who venture into the old MTV Music Generator series to create tunes, but because on each continent releases had different names, this can be confusing about what software we are talking about. Here's a list of all of them:

EuropeNorth AmericaPlatformYearDeveloperPublisher
Music-PS11998Jester InteractiveCodemasters
Music 2000MTV Music GeneratorPS11999Jester InteractiveCodemasters
Music 2000MTV Music GeneratorPC2000Jester InteractiveCodemasters
MTV Music Generator 2MTV Music Generator 2PS22001Jester InteractiveCodemasters
Pocket Music-GBC2002Jester InteractiveRage Software
Pocket Music-GBA2002Jester InteractiveRage Software
Music 2002 Club Edition-PC2003Jester InteractiveJester Interactive
Music 3000Digital Hitz FactoryPS22003 (2004 in NA)Jester InteractiveJester Interactive (XS Games in NA)
Music 3000Digital Hitz FactoryXboxCancelledJester Interactive-
MTV Music Generator 3MTV Music Generator 3PS22004MixmaxCodemasters
MTV Music Generator 3MTV Music Generator 3Xbox2004MixmaxCodemasters

When I have time I might add small descriptions. One thing to keep in mind, however, is that in terms of direct sequels/upgrades and in terms of samples it would be:

Music->Music 2000->MTVMG2->Music 3000
Music 2000 PC->Music 2002 Club Edition->Music 3000

The rest got no direct prequel or sequel and don't include any sample from other games.

Differences between Music 2000 and MTV Music Generator (http://ourl.ca/15450/314290)
Noisetoys: The origins of Music 1 (http://ourl.ca/15450/314282)
Title: Re: MTV Music Generator <> MUSIC Creation software differences accross countries
Post by: Jonius7 on March 07, 2012, 03:34:16 am
Yay DJ_O this is a great find! I knew about some of the many versions, but having them here referenced in one place makes it all the easier.
Speaking of referenced, it would be nice if we had a "Reference" section, though a bit different to "Tutorials".
Title: Re: MTV Music Generator <> MUSIC Creation software differences accross countries
Post by: Fear 2 Stop on August 04, 2012, 12:58:35 am
Forgive me for bumping an old topic, but MG3 technically is a part of the series in name only, as it was done by a different developer and uses a completely different engine.
Title: Re: MTV Music Generator <> MUSIC Creation software differences accross countries
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 04, 2012, 01:02:14 am
Yeah it was made by Mixmax. As a result, MTVMG3 had much less bugs and glitches, but it was absolutely horrible in terms of creativity freedom.
Title: Re: MTV Music Generator <> MUSIC Creation software differences accross countries
Post by: Fear 2 Stop on August 04, 2012, 03:29:02 am
It also wasn't very user friendly, at least to me.
Title: Re: MTV Music Generator <> MUSIC Creation software differences accross countries
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 04, 2012, 07:31:27 am
Actually, I personally found MTVMG3 to be the most user-friendly as soon as you got used to the controls. The controls seemed strange at first, but among all the MTV programs, it always took me less time to make a song in MTVMG3 than it did in MTVMG1 and 2. In MTVMG2 and Digital Hits Factory, it was far longer than MTVMG1, however, by about 3 hours, and in Music 2002 it usually took me 6 extra hours because of the controls. I never made a song in the PC version of MTVMG nor the europe-only Music Creation software from 1998.
Title: Re: MTV Music Generator <> MUSIC Creation software differences accross countries
Post by: Fear 2 Stop on August 15, 2012, 01:06:01 am
Normally takes about an hour to an hour and a half in MG2...twice that in DHF. Can't really do anything in MG1 as the scrolling , coupled with the screen not changing makes it impossible to tell if you've gone up or down an octave in the riff editor.
Title: Re: MTV Music Generator <> MUSIC Creation software differences accross countries
Post by: handsolo on August 16, 2012, 07:02:33 am
Anyone know where to buy music 2000 for pc?  Where do you find this program?

The pc versions of this game are nowhere to be found.  I wish it was on steam, i'd like a safe copy to download, i really don't want to deal with iso's. 
Title: Re: MTV Music Generator <> MUSIC Creation software differences accross countries
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 16, 2012, 07:13:30 am
Heya and welcome here. :) Unfortunately I only ever found Music 2000 PC once before, and it was on Amazon, where it costed $100 due to being a collector item.

You could try to find Music 2002 Club Edition instead, which is almost exactly the same thing, except with 4000 extra samples from the PS2 Music 3000 and it cannot open MTVMG files. It's not that easy to find either, but I managed to find a $2 copy a few years ago on Ebay.
Title: Re: MTV Music Generator <> MUSIC Creation software differences accross countries
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 19, 2012, 04:04:17 pm
Update: Before MUSIC there was this:

(http://www.coldstorage.org.uk/images/noisetoys.jpg)

it was basically MUSIC, but in its early production days it seemed to have been called NoiseToys before getting renamed to MUSIC Station then later just MUSIC.

I totally didn't know that until now, though. O.O

Here's MUSIC final version using the default blue theme:

Edit (Eeems): removed broken image from bad domain
Title: Re: MTV Music Generator <> MUSIC Creation software differences accross countries
Post by: hellninjas on August 19, 2012, 04:06:33 pm
o.o There is no way i'm using THAT...
Title: Re: MTV Music Generator <> MUSIC Creation software differences accross countries
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 19, 2012, 04:08:09 pm
I don't like the controls of that software. I prefer the ones in MTV Music Generator (or Music 2000 for you europeans). They're much more user-friendly. Also in MUSIC, although every sample from MTVMG are available, there are 8 fewer sound channels, which would be quite limited for my music.
Title: Re: MTV Music Generator <> MUSIC Creation software differences accross countries
Post by: hellninjas on August 19, 2012, 04:10:12 pm
Oh I didn't see default Blue Theme, I'd use Blue but that other theme... It's just awful o_o
(And I still can't find MTV Music Generator ;_;)
Title: Re: MTV Music Generator <> MUSIC Creation software differences accross countries
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 19, 2012, 04:13:42 pm
Yeah the other theme is strange. Also I hate how small the song area is. In MTV it almost takes the entire screen:



As for MTVMG it's really hard to find. I found an ISO back in 2006 and kept it since, in case my second CD breaks. I had another real copy before, but the CD stopped working. Also the game only runs properly in ePSXe with the Eternal SPU sound plugin found on some emulation sites.

Of course there's also MTVMG2 which isn't too bad, but it scrolls vertically and the ADSR for notes can be hard to setup (the fact it's graphical like in MTVMG actually makes it easier, but the problem is that in MTVMG2 each note got 8 ADSR settings per note, which aren't easy to notice, so as a result, you end up changing only the first, only to barely see any note difference because you forgot to change the 7 others.)
Title: Re: MTV Music Generator <> MUSIC Creation software differences accross countries
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 09, 2012, 12:20:18 am
(http://archives.mtv-music-generator.com/tutorials/m2kvsmg.gif)
Title: Re: MTV Music Generator <> MUSIC Creation software differences accross countries
Post by: Cypher_Xero on May 09, 2019, 08:36:27 pm
Quote from: handsolo on August 16, 2012, 07:02:33 am
Anyone know where to buy music 2000 for pc?  Where do you find this program?

The pc versions of this game are nowhere to be found.  I wish it was on steam, i'd like a safe copy to download, i really don't want to deal with iso's.

I currently hold an .Iso of mtvmg1 for pc, it's an almost impossible find in full version, most are only evaluation copies
Title: Re: MTV Music Generator <> MUSIC Creation software differences accross countries
Post by: TIfanx1999 on May 09, 2019, 09:25:59 pm
Cypher_Xero: Welcome to Omnimaga. Just a heads up, yhe post you are trying to reply to is ~7 years old. Most likely you woun't get a reply. Omnimaga also doesn't allow sharing copyrighted software as they don't want to get in trouble. Just a few things to keep in mind. That said, there isn't really much in the way of music creation here anymore, but hang around and chat if you like. ;) Love the avatar by the way. The Cheshire Cat is awesome!