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Re: Anonymous attacks on Sony
« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2011, 02:15:03 pm »
Yeah, that's why Anonymous is successful, it's a large sum of people together.

And that's how democracy is supposed to work too. So if everyone hates the DCMA, since the government is supposed to represent the people, they should abolish it, right?
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Re: Anonymous attacks on Sony
« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2011, 02:24:40 pm »
It's a pity America is a representational republic and thus the public is essentially politically irrelevant.
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Re: Anonymous attacks on Sony
« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2011, 02:52:05 pm »
I don't think true democracy exists anywhere really, politic-wise. Even in Canada government will do things even if the population is all against it.
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Re: Anonymous attacks on Sony
« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2011, 03:56:16 pm »
Democracy and Law often disagree with each other. There are problems with Democracy itself, too, as the will of the people isn't always the best choice. Direct Democracy only works i people are fully aware of the situations they are voting on, and are non-biased towards each other's welfare. In other words, pure democracy can't work, because people are corrupt.

Most "democratic" countries, including the US, are actually Republics, which are different in their function. People elect officials who are supposed to be fully aware of the situation. The only problem is that the officials people elect are all idiots. Otherwise it would work a little better :P

I disagree with Sony's actions BTW. :)
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Re: Anonymous attacks on Sony
« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2011, 04:47:35 pm »
I agree that Sony took it too far. They are trying to set an example of what can happen if you hack their console. I also dont agree with the court system allowing for all this information to be handed over to Sony, over what seems to be rather vague arguments for doing so.

However as of late the Anonymous kiddies are getting to serious. They were asking for the kids names/information and addresses to Sony executives. The mentality that its ok to go after someone's kids is sick. Anonymous defending the people started out as a noble cause, now they seem to be taking stuff to far. A lack of maturity is evident and it's sad. I'm glad to see some of the older Anonymous people speaking up and going public with their distaste for recent acts.
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Re: Anonymous attacks on Sony
« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2011, 06:37:06 pm »
Quote from: willrandship on April 06, 2011, 03:56:16 pm
Democracy and Law often disagree with each other. There are problems with Democracy itself, too, as the will of the people isn't always the best choice. Direct Democracy only works i people are fully aware of the situations they are voting on, and are non-biased towards each other's welfare. In other words, pure democracy can't work, because people are corrupt.

Most "democratic" countries, including the US, are actually Republics, which are different in their function. People elect officials who are supposed to be fully aware of the situation. The only problem is that the officials people elect are all idiots. Otherwise it would work a little better :P

I disagree with Sony's actions BTW. :)
Nicely said.  Our founders actually didn't like direct democracies at all.
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Re: Anonymous attacks on Sony
« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2011, 06:50:11 pm »
Go anon <3
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Re: Anonymous attacks on Sony
« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2011, 07:14:29 pm »
There's an XKCD for that....http://xkcd.com/834/ :P

But yeah. No one is perfect, and Sony does have some motivations. If they really want to make peace, they could bring back OtherOS. Not kidding. And get rid of the HyperVisor sucking away SPU cores.
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Re: Anonymous attacks on Sony
« Reply #23 on: April 06, 2011, 07:39:30 pm »
Quote from: willrandship on April 06, 2011, 07:14:29 pm
There's an XKCD for that....http://xkcd.com/834/ :P

But yeah. No one is perfect, and Sony does have some motivations. If they really want to make peace, they could bring back OtherOS. Not kidding. And get rid of the HyperVisor sucking away SPU cores.

Lol I remember that one.

I think that what Sony is doing is sickening. For one, the ability to run 3rd party software like that actually helps (NSpire-ndless anyone?) And two, it just goes against the "pioneering" spirit that shouldn't be blocked especially when it comes to computers and the like. It's people who figure out how to hack these things and learn how they work are the ones who will define and advance the future of computers.

They're hurting everyone by doing this.
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Re: Anonymous attacks on Sony
« Reply #24 on: April 06, 2011, 07:46:29 pm »
The Other-OS feature actually worked well. It got rid of the initiative of homebrew lovers to hack it, leaving only the Backup-running portion, which tends to climb all over other people's work, and it is also more frowned upon, since they don't have a legal reason anymore.
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Re: Anonymous attacks on Sony
« Reply #25 on: April 06, 2011, 07:54:11 pm »
Quote from: Madskillz on April 06, 2011, 04:47:35 pm
I agree that Sony took it too far. They are trying to set an example of what can happen if you hack their console. I also dont agree with the court system allowing for all this information to be handed over to Sony, over what seems to be rather vague arguments for doing so.

However as of late the Anonymous kiddies are getting to serious. They were asking for the kids names/information and addresses to Sony executives. The mentality that its ok to go after someone's kids is sick. Anonymous defending the people started out as a noble cause, now they seem to be taking stuff to far. A lack of maturity is evident and it's sad. I'm glad to see some of the older Anonymous people speaking up and going public with their distaste for recent acts.
Yeah true. The issue with them is that they often go to the extent of ruining people lives when taking actions. If you react non-stop to one of their troll, for example, or do something they hate, you're pretty much screwed. They can get your home address, phone number and all.
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Re: Anonymous attacks on Sony
« Reply #26 on: April 06, 2011, 08:30:38 pm »
It kind of strikes me as odd that sony didn't do this when brandonw released the ps3 jailbreaking thing...they probably didn't think a graphing calculator was anything to worry about XD
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Re: Anonymous attacks on Sony
« Reply #27 on: April 06, 2011, 08:37:17 pm »
Quote from: Darl181 on April 06, 2011, 08:30:38 pm
It kind of strikes me as odd that sony didn't do this when brandonw released the ps3 jailbreaking thing...they probably didn't think a graphing calculator was anything to worry about XD

Because GeoHot made the jailbreak that BrandonW used, and GeoHot is far more visible. Taking GeoHot down hurts the PS3 jailbreak community more.
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Re: Anonymous attacks on Sony
« Reply #28 on: April 06, 2011, 08:49:00 pm »
Didn't BrandonW site get DDoS'ed, though? It might have just been a script kidding being upset that BrandonW didn't answer his question already answered in the readme, though.
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Re: Anonymous attacks on Sony
« Reply #29 on: April 06, 2011, 09:02:33 pm »
Wait what was it that sony did that was so bad though? ???
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