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Possible now to crack Nspire keys?
« on: May 29, 2011, 07:29:59 pm »
We have been kidding ourselves for so long now, with the 1024 bit RSA keys. We know well enough how TI did their evil deeds. We fought back and lost. TI has now since increased to 2048 bit since.

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This has gone from impossible to impossible.

Even supercomputing servers will take an unpractical amount of time. Why then am I telling you that the Nspire may now be *possible* to be cracked?

Guys and lobsters, I present to you the QUANTUM COMPUTER:



- http://www.dwavesys.com/en/products-services.html
- http://www.dwavesys.com/en/dw_homepage.html

If this product was to be put in a server, This just might be able to crack the uncrackable.

....The bad part is, how much will this thing cost us?! let alone 10 of these things! :crazy:
« Last Edit: May 29, 2011, 07:37:24 pm by Snake X »
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Re: Possible now to crack Nspire keys?
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2011, 07:50:29 pm »
I'm sure it's been possible for a while...
feasible is a different matter :P

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Re: Possible now to crack Nspire keys?
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2011, 07:53:25 pm »
That simply looks expensive.  I think we would seriously have better luck making our own calculators than that, it would cost 10x less and would be more profitable.  (of course, neither are really practical, just saying yours is even less practical mostly due to $$$ constraints)

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Re: Possible now to crack Nspire keys?
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2011, 08:04:36 pm »
I found out that one of those things is $10,000,000 dollars. Thats not even including the area, or the labor to set one of those things up
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Re: Possible now to crack Nspire keys?
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2011, 08:14:39 pm »
expensive. We could make a lot of our own calcs for that money. I'll wait till these become affordable
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Re: Possible now to crack Nspire keys?
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2011, 09:07:51 pm »
expensive. We could make a lot of our own calcs for that money. I'll wait till these become affordable

20 years?  :) by then, calculators will be more advanced than our computers we're chatting on right now.  And, we'll have 65536-bit RSA keys :P

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Re: Possible now to crack Nspire keys?
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2011, 09:29:38 pm »
Well yeah, that would be possible with quantum computers. Of course, you can't have one just to crack 2048-bit keys. You should use it for something else too. Or just ask one of the companies who bought it to compute it for you.

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Re: Possible now to crack Nspire keys?
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2011, 10:20:52 pm »
How much would we have to pay them for the RSa cracking?
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Re: Possible now to crack Nspire keys?
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2011, 10:31:55 pm »
Well yeah, that would be possible with quantum computers. Of course, you can't have one just to crack 2048-bit keys. You should use it for something else too. Or just ask one of the companies who bought it to compute it for you.

the only one in the world that bought it is lockheed martin.
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Re: Possible now to crack Nspire keys?
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2011, 11:02:42 pm »
I  researched this a little and it seems to not be as good as it seems. They say you'd need at least a couple thousand qubits for quantum computers to be able to break 2048 but RSA. this one only has 128. The company that made this says they'll have a 1000+ qubit computer in a few years, but it seems that scientist are skeptical if its possible
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Re: Possible now to crack Nspire keys?
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2011, 11:06:10 pm »
OMG, A COMMERCIAL QUANTUM COMPUTER!
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Re: Possible now to crack Nspire keys?
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2011, 11:07:51 pm »
reading your link snake_x it sounds more like they are faking their quantum comp. That would be a great scheme. They have like 60 million in investments
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Re: Possible now to crack Nspire keys?
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2011, 11:44:52 pm »
If we start trying this, expect a new TI-Nspire line in 2 years that uses a 4096 key.