Quote from: TC01 on June 15, 2011, 12:02:53 pm

I'm a little disturbed about what is known about Windows 8 so far. To try and be concise about this, since we don't know everything yet: my two main concerns are Windows 8 on desktops/laptops and development.

This sums up my issues with development for Windows 8 quite nicely- it's primarily a lack of information and communication from Microsoft.

My concern with Windows 8 on desktops? I think the Metro-style UI is quite nice for tablets, but I can't imagine using it on a desktop or laptop. Yes, there is a Windows 7 desktop available, but the key question in my mind would be: is the Windows 8 UI intended as an alternative or as a replacement? If it's intended as a touch-focused alternative, with the Windows 7 UI (or not necessarily that but a more conventional desktop), I don't really have a problem. But if it's intended as a replacement... I don't see myself using that sort of UI with a keyboard and mouse, especially not for more complex applications like an IDE, word processor, and so on.

I don't really see the value of a tablet as opposed to a laptop for someone like myself. If I were to consider one, I'd pick up an Android tablet over this, but I don't know enough about Windows 8 to make an informed decision yet, though.

HTML 5 and Javascript apps only? Oh that sucks

Android++

Yes, you can see that this is just an alternative really for the tablets. Tablet's are really for people who want to surf the web, do email, watch movies, and that sort of stuff.. like an entertainment device. With a touch screen. Also, yeah I would not like to upgrade my $1500 gaming rig to a tablet-optimized OS, so I think its safe to say that your better off getting a tablet with OS 8 on it. The GUI is much simpler than that of android being that the apps are there instantly, and no 'icons' so to speak. I think that windows 8 is an ingenious design for this market and I think that it will be a great success for those who seek the tablet market. Something this can do that the Android doesn't very elegantly is true side-by-side apps. But what do I know? I haven't played with side-by-side apps on android. Maybe it's better on it? Android is a wonderful os upon itself but I think that windows 8 might be a serious competitor because of the engineering they put into it and also not to mention how there is still the classic desktop available, something that lacks on all android/iOS touch devices. I also plan to buy the 'dell peju' tablet supposedly for $300 with wifi.

And scout, dont forget CSS. Also, just because these are only developed with these languages, doesn't mean that they are necessairly arn't good. Take a look at what google did with their logo that one day when they made the balls bouncy and when you put your courser near the balls they moved away from it. That was (to some people) very fun, and (others hated it).

So, my question is if this is geared primarily for tablets, why the hell are they calling it Windows 8? That suggests that it is a direct upgrade/follow-up to Windows 7. Wouldn't calling it something like Windows Tablet Edition make more sense and be less confusing? I also find it strange that a Windows based OS won't be using windows for the GUI.

3:08 might be explanatory

Well, this means the windows for tablets OS and the computer windows is the same, meaning it's HUGE, right?

Old Windows is also included, they have 2 in 1.

I find it strange that they're rebuilding an entire OS when they have the nice Windows CE line, which already supports ARM and many other platforms besides. Plus, developers are already used to writing for CE, since it's well documented. Furthermore, it's optimized specifically for less powerful devices like tablets.

Anyway, I won't be buying a tablet because I don't have a reason to. I want to be able to do more with my computer than check my e-mail.

EDIT: As for HTML/Javascript/CSS, good luck writing non-trivial programs in that, such as the HTML/CSS parser that Firefox uses (written in C). HTML and CSS technically aren't even programming languages, so if that source is correct, then the only real language available will be the mess that is Javascript.

It looks like this is intended to be the successor to Windows 7. For a tablet, it looks fine. But for a PC pr laptop? That is a giant DO NOT WANT. I REALLY dislike the idea of that on a PC or a laptop.

It's just like Windows 7, but +++++++++++++++ a Tablet OS, so basically you pay for one OS and you get two. However, that sucks in this context.

I find it strange that they're rebuilding an entire OS when they have the nice Windows CE line, which already supports ARM and many other platforms besides. Plus, developers are already used to writing for CE, since it's well documented. Furthermore, it's optimized specifically for less powerful devices like tablets.

Anyway, I won't be buying a tablet because I don't have a reason to. I want to be able to do more with my computer than check my e-mail.

Did you see the video I posted in the minute I posted?

Microsoft can only go downhill from this.

Since I just posted it on IRC, I might as well link it here. This article has the video Scout linked above, and talks a bit about it.