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Annoying feature-Boot time/Splash screen for hp prime
« on: November 07, 2014, 04:53:53 pm »
Hi everyone.

Im a civil engineer and hopeless at any type of programming. I have a hp prime i love but the bootime (splash screen) every time its turned on, is very very annoying. It usually only lasts 1 second...but that is enough to distract my train of thought (others may find the 1second wait fine...i dont).

Thus..is anyone out there programming savvy to reduce this 1second bootime to say...0.1 seconds...or better yet, get rid of the spash screen and pausing feature!

Would love to hear some expert opinions

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Re: Annoying feature-Boot time/Splash screen for hp prime
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2014, 05:25:01 pm »
I don't have an answer, but you'd be seriously pissed at the Nspire's 30/40 sec+ boot time (but that doesn't happen often, unless using ndless programs that crash, or after not using it for a long time etc.).

But.. aren't there any APD thing on the Prime like on TI and it would just go into "sleep" mode and thus not reboot at the next "powerup" ?
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Re: Annoying feature-Boot time/Splash screen for hp prime
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2014, 07:47:43 pm »
No unfortunatly.. no APD. Wish that there was
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Re: Annoying feature-Boot time/Splash screen for hp prime
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2014, 07:56:22 pm »
During the splash screen the calculator is probably initialized. That takes some time. Even if you could get rid of the splash screen it will probably take the same amount of time before the calculator is ready to use.
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Re: Annoying feature-Boot time/Splash screen for hp prime
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2014, 10:31:33 pm »
I think it was inevitable to happen with those new advanced calcs. But the Nspire booting gotta be by far the worst of all.


EDIT: Wow, bad typo of my part. I meant Nspire, not Prime x.x. My bad
« Last Edit: November 10, 2014, 01:31:37 am by DJ Omnimaga »
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Re: Annoying feature-Boot time/Splash screen for hp prime
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2014, 09:31:08 am »
Quote from: billhill69 on November 07, 2014, 07:47:43 pm
No unfortunatly.. no APD. Wish that there was

A little bit confused here. There is auto power down. Are you referring to something else?

Quote from: Keoni29 on November 07, 2014, 07:56:22 pm
During the splash screen the calculator is probably initialized. That takes some time. Even if you could get rid of the splash screen it will probably take the same amount of time before the calculator is ready to use.

Yup, you are correct. Rather then display a black screen, it had do *something* else you'd have time that nobody knew the calc was doing anything. Hence the marketing people wanted a logo...
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Re: Annoying feature-Boot time/Splash screen for hp prime
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2014, 01:32:18 am »
Maybe APD stopped working for him for whatever reason?

Also sorry but my last post had a typo. I meant Nspire booting, not Prime. >.<
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Re: Annoying feature-Boot time/Splash screen for hp prime
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2014, 04:37:59 am »
I dont get it Tim. If the splash screen is required for initialisation, why can the numbers be typed in (and remembered)whilst the logo is there?.

On one hand, we say the calculator is "booting up" or "initialising" and thus nothing can be seen except for the logo. Yet, we can type in immediately the calculator is turned on AND it has this fortunate ability to remember what has been typed in whilst the logo is still being displayed. Thus...leading me to conclude that the logo can be replaced with the proper calculator screen.

There must be a way that the  logo display time (or bootup time) can be adjusted from the current 1.4seconds to say 0.3seconds...after all, the calculator has an inbuilt abilty to remember immediatly whats been typed in..its just been designed not to display it for 1.4 seconds.
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Re: Annoying feature-Boot time/Splash screen for hp prime
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2014, 05:19:53 am »
That's some fair reasoning there, I'm interested in the answer for that.
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Re: Annoying feature-Boot time/Splash screen for hp prime
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2014, 09:46:24 pm »
I'm guessing the input listener is started earlier on and they go into a sort of FIFO, waiting for the OS to take them (which it does virtually immediately upon you seeing the main screen).
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Re: Annoying feature-Boot time/Splash screen for hp prime
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2014, 01:36:45 am »
Quote from: billhill69 on November 10, 2014, 04:37:59 am
I dont get it Tim. If the splash screen is required for initialisation, why can the numbers be typed in (and remembered)whilst the logo is there?.

On one hand, we say the calculator is "booting up" or "initialising" and thus nothing can be seen except for the logo. Yet, we can type in immediately the calculator is turned on AND it has this fortunate ability to remember what has been typed in whilst the logo is still being displayed. Thus...leading me to conclude that the logo can be replaced with the proper calculator screen.

There must be a way that the  logo display time (or bootup time) can be adjusted from the current 1.4seconds to say 0.3seconds...after all, the calculator has an inbuilt abilty to remember immediatly whats been typed in..its just been designed not to display it for 1.4 seconds.
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If the main screen popped up instantly on startup, the 1.5 second freeze when attempting to do stuff before the calculator finished initializing would startle more than 1 person, thinking their calculator froze. It might remember what you type in, but perhaps it is not actually getting typed in during the booting time, but rather processed rapidly right afterward (kinda like on computers that lag), making you think you typed the text during booting.


Seriously, though, I don't think the startup time is that much of an issue. It's just 1.5 seconds, which isn't a lot during a 60 minutes class, and it could have been much worse.
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Re: Annoying feature-Boot time/Splash screen for hp prime
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2014, 01:46:58 am »
I would dream of having a 1.5 second start-up time. As mentioned previously, the TI-nspire can take 30 seconds to start up, but usually if it's waking up from hibernation or inactivity. Otherwise it turns on immediately.
For the HP Prime loading screen we need some people who know how to hack in and modify the OS...
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Re: Annoying feature-Boot time/Splash screen for hp prime
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2014, 01:48:01 am »
Quote from: Jonius7 on November 11, 2014, 01:46:58 am
I would dream of having a 1.5 second start-up time. As mentioned previously, the TI-nspire can take 30 seconds to start up, but usually if it's waking up from hibernation or inactivity. Otherwise it turns on immediately.
For the HP Prime loading screen we need some people who know how to hack in and modify the OS...
Actually mine takes about 1 minute to start up, but it has about 30 MB of files I think. When it's not hibernating it takes about 1-2 seconds to startup (the screen remains black until then) and IIRC my 84+CSE does that too.
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Re: Annoying feature-Boot time/Splash screen for hp prime
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2014, 10:16:22 am »
Quote from: billhill69 on November 10, 2014, 04:37:59 am
I dont get it Tim. If the splash screen is required for initialisation, why can the numbers be typed in (and remembered)whilst the logo is there?.
On one hand, we say the calculator is "booting up" or "initialising" and thus nothing can be seen except for the logo. Yet, we can type in immediately the calculator is turned on AND it has this fortunate ability to remember what has been typed in whilst the logo is still being displayed. Thus...leading me to conclude that the logo can be replaced with the proper calculator screen.

There must be a way that the  logo display time (or bootup time) can be adjusted from the current 1.4seconds to say 0.3seconds...after all, the calculator has an inbuilt abilty to remember immediatly whats been typed in..its just been designed not to display it for 1.4 seconds.
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That simply suggests that the calculator already initialized the keyboard and input buffer. That doesn't mean that everything else is properly initialized. So while you can enter stuff in, it doesn't mean that the calculator is necessarily ready to do anything -- including displaying the home/cas screen.
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