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Re: Let's hack the HP Prime!
« Reply #210 on: April 05, 2014, 03:11:27 am »
Thanks to bb010g for posting this link on IRC http://ried.cl/en/franqueando-los-secretos-del-hardware-mediante-ingenieria-inversa/

Maybe that could be useful for Prime hacking?

WOW. This could be the breakthrough. For one, we could watch the USB port when, say, a new firmware is being installed...

And this article also seems to imply that HP ignores CRCs when transferring. If they ignore checking with firmware, our job could be a lot simpler.

Well, http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=13329&lang=en is older and directly better for "hacking" ;)

Nothing with Prime-tinkering done since, though, if I'm not mistaken (except transfers)
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Re: Let's hack the HP Prime!
« Reply #211 on: April 05, 2014, 05:22:47 am »
Has anyone even tried to flash something else than the OS to see if it worked ? Also has the UART been tested ? There could be interesting boot logs that we know nothing about yet.

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Re: Let's hack the HP Prime!
« Reply #212 on: April 05, 2014, 06:05:08 am »
You mean the pins on the board marked with rx and tx?
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Re: Let's hack the HP Prime!
« Reply #213 on: April 05, 2014, 06:38:53 am »
Yes I do.

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Re: Let's hack the HP Prime!
« Reply #214 on: April 05, 2014, 08:04:41 am »
I just realized something. Recall the SDK OS version, and how it came with usbtool.exe to manually upload firmware to it? Well, I wonder if it'll take modified firmware files without complaint.

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Re: Let's hack the HP Prime!
« Reply #215 on: April 05, 2014, 10:59:21 am »
Perhaps it is some kind of debug interface. There should be interesting stuff on the uart.
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Re: Let's hack the HP Prime!
« Reply #216 on: April 06, 2014, 02:16:50 pm »
Yeah Keoni that was the idea. On the Nspire there's some info output through rs232. Also it allows one to flash the boot2.
Iconmaster, I think TIPlanet managed to change some OS strings this way. My idea was to use this to flash custom bare metal code and see if it works. If so we could write a custom OS loader and start porting Linux. :D

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Re: Let's hack the HP Prime!
« Reply #217 on: June 14, 2014, 06:20:32 pm »
Anyone still trying to crack open the prime?
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Re: Let's hack the HP Prime!
« Reply #218 on: June 15, 2014, 06:55:32 am »
Once I get one I'm interested. Tiplanet has shown it's possible to modify the firmware easily so I plan to try and run bare metal code at first.

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Re: Let's hack the HP Prime!
« Reply #219 on: June 15, 2014, 10:23:56 am »
I might get a Prime. It seems really interesting. Whenever I get one, I'm interested :P
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Re: Let's hack the HP Prime!
« Reply #220 on: June 15, 2014, 12:05:04 pm »
I probably won't try to hack it since I am not into low level and hardware stuff but if I find anything interesting I'll share it.

Also if you get a prime I hope you do code a bit for it too, unlike certain other Omni users :P

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Re: Let's hack the HP Prime!
« Reply #221 on: June 15, 2014, 10:08:50 pm »
I probably won't try to hack it since I am not into low level and hardware stuff but if I find anything interesting I'll share it.

Also if you get a prime I hope you do code a bit for it too, unlike certain other Omni users :P
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Re: Let's hack the HP Prime!
« Reply #222 on: June 24, 2014, 02:08:04 am »
Hello,

Nothing on RS232, sorry...
No buffer overruns that I know of (else I would have fixed them...)
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Re: Let's hack the HP Prime!
« Reply #223 on: June 24, 2014, 05:33:44 am »
Welcome on omnimaga :D

Perhaps the uart is only used for flashing the bootloader for example and not for debugging.
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Re: Let's hack the HP Prime!
« Reply #224 on: June 24, 2014, 09:34:38 am »
Welcome to Omni ! :D

Also, are you from HP or did you try that yourself ?