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Re: Well...I'm New
« Reply #60 on: March 05, 2010, 11:00:28 pm »
nonono don't worry it was fine, it's just that in some occasions I saw people post random pointless stuff non stop in intro section or even posts containing nothing and repeated several times just to rise their post counts :P

Reuben can be a bit complicated to send indeed, especially on TI Connect. For the grayscale, it uses Omnicalc, since xLIB APP was not released yet at the time. The game uses an older xLIB in program form to draw the maps.

The Zelda game is Zelda Dark Link Quest, it's in the downloads section, but it's much harder to send than Reuben series

Since the past few years, making massive games like this is not much a big problem anymore with xLIB and Celtic or tools like XCOPY because you can make your sub programs much larger, so this is why Illusiat 13 has like 24 sub programs, while some older games have like 100-200 tiny sub programs x.x
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Re: Well...I'm New
« Reply #61 on: March 05, 2010, 11:14:55 pm »
Oh ok haha. I was like "What did we do? We were just talking..." But I get what you mean and I see how that can be annoying. As for Reuben I can see how it can be hard to transfer, I just think it was my lack of experience (and probably impatience and not read the "readme" files haha). Now that I think about that though I do remember it using Omnicalc. I guess I was either confusing it with something else or just when I shortly experimented with it. Who knows.
I'ver heard of Zelda: Dark Link Quest...didn't know it was complete though. I'll have to check it out. Was it created here?
Cool, about the game part. I figured as much since I'm seeing things like Seek-and-Destroy and such with amazing graphics (though I'm thinking those are still quite hard to make haha). What is XCOPY though? That's a new one to me.

Quick noob question: What is the point of sub-programs? Just to help organize and run code fast so one program doesn't search for it inside itself for forever?
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Re: Well...I'm New
« Reply #62 on: March 05, 2010, 11:39:36 pm »
Quote from: meishe91 on March 05, 2010, 11:14:55 pm
(and probably impatience and not read the "readme" files haha)
This is why I now name my readme files as "ignoreme.txt" :P

Zelda DLQ was made back in 2004 during summer. Since I had no internet access at that time I announced nothing on forums, though. I did a round of beta testing, then released it on ticalc.org in October 2004. Back then Omnimaga site had no forums and I was part of Epic Programming Studio. I think DLQ, Xlib Xlib Revolution and Reuben series are the only programs that were ever finished under the EPS banner x.x

As for Xcopy it's the function from Celtic III that can copy an archived program into RAM, but separate from xLIB for people who only need this function. Illusiat 13 uses it.

As for Sub programs, they reduce repetitive code. There's a way to not use repetitive code without sub programs by using Lbl/Gotos in a specific way that won't cause memory issues, but it can be very slow if the program containing the sub routines is very large.
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Re: Well...I'm New
« Reply #63 on: March 05, 2010, 11:46:43 pm »
Haha very nice.
Oh, ok. I see. Ya, I've seen it on ticalc.org. Guess I overlooked the completed part of it though. Don't know how that happened. But cool, was EPC another big programming site/forum then?
Oh ok, that's why I haven't heard of it. I haven't really tried out Celtic III so ya haha. But cool, I'm not sure if I entirely understand that though.
And ok, I didn't even think about the repetitive code aspect of it. But cool. Thanks for explaining all that :)
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Re: Well...I'm New
« Reply #64 on: March 05, 2010, 11:52:14 pm »
well it's not really expected to see a complete Zelda since almost all the other ones on ticalc are demos so ppl won't get their hopes up when seeing a Zelda game. It might even be enough to make some people not download Spencer's Zelda when he finishes it (http://www.revsoft.org/phpBB2). EPS was not too inactive for a small forum back then. It was the 3rd most active english TI forum at the time, after MC and UTI, altough very far behind, with 6000 posts in a year. It had both TI and Casio programmers, but then most staff went inactive, the forum software and server became unstable and it disheartened the entire userbase and the team was disbanded in December 2005.
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Re: Well...I'm New
« Reply #65 on: March 06, 2010, 12:06:26 am »
So I checked that Zelda out, I'm guessing he is just someone creating another full zelda then? (Graphics looked AWESOME!) I can understand why people wouldn't download it, sad shame though. Don't know what they are missing. As for EPS, i see. That is always a bummer when forums go down. Especially really good ones.
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Re: Well...I'm New
« Reply #66 on: March 06, 2010, 02:27:20 am »
yeah, altough progress is quite slow in overall. I hope it gets finished really. I am confident it will, though, even if it takes until 2011. I don't think he plans to release demos, which is why no releases were done so far.

But yeah the issue at ticalc.org is that authors attract us with awesome screenshots and say the game is nearly complete but when you try it either it barely works or it only contains a dungeon with no enemy, or very few stuff. :(
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Re: Well...I'm New
« Reply #67 on: March 06, 2010, 02:32:09 am »
Ya, I hope it gets done too. It looks really good.

Ya, I know what you mean. It really bugs me too when screenshots aren't provided and they hype the program up so much when it really isn't that great...
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Re: Well...I'm New
« Reply #68 on: March 06, 2010, 02:37:54 am »
ooh nonono I didn't necessarly meant when screeenshots are not provided. In some cases, they are provided, even animated, but they give too much hype themselves.

But yeah you get the idea.
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Re: Well...I'm New
« Reply #69 on: March 06, 2010, 02:40:13 am »
Oh, ya I know what you meant. Haha sorry for not saying. I was just adding that as another little side thing.
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Re: Well...I'm New
« Reply #70 on: March 06, 2010, 07:24:52 am »
Welcome at Omnimaga (:
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Re: Well...I'm New
« Reply #71 on: March 06, 2010, 01:32:06 pm »
Thank you :)
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