Yes, I agree with flyingfisch.
I can understand that it may not be easy, and I think you know very well that your parents only have good intentions for you. When I think about it, if I would get kids later on in life, I'd probably also put a blocker on the computer.  And trust me, it's not easy to find a good proof blocker, which is probably the reason that you have several.

I think that probably the main thing your dad is trying to avoid is inappropriate material. And to get that really good blocked it probably requires him to block all those other stuff.

Maybe you could talk with you dad and ask him to unblock specific sites, to make it easier for you(rather that blocking specific sites)?

It's better to have a useless computer than go to H E double hockey sticks with a useful one, eh?

Yeah, but there's a difference between a reasonable content filter like my parents used to have at home (filtering illegal material and ye ole digital humpin') and senseless word filtering. Come on... Blocking pages by scanning the _text_ on them? I don't see how that could ever be productive.

Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on May 02, 2013, 07:30:57 am

I just don't get why parents check what their kids browse while they're online more often and monitors the site history list (make sure your kid can't clear its content), instead of just blocking sites that might be clean.

Even that is disrespect to the kids' private life. When you're over 13 and your parents can read all the chats you made with your friends or gf/bf, this can be quite embarrassing. But yeah, blocking stuff like p o r n is a normal protection for the younger of us, again not for 13-18 who are in the middle of puberty and need independance (yeah I know this doesn't mean anything but you know what teens like to do) and probably have enough judgement to know what they can do on internet or not.

Also an easy way to enforce that kind of law is just to make parental filter distributing illegal and voila.

In Dapianokid's situation, the content filtering is abusive and he should have a talk with his parents to know why they restricted him all of a sudden.

I never said I was against the fact that parents have their rights, just against abuse and preventing kids to have hobbies. And I'd like a clean life afterwards, too, but I don't see how internet would prevent me from that.
And I don't want content filters to be illegal, I was proving that it's not really hard to enforce kids' freedom on the internet.

Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on May 02, 2013, 07:30:57 am

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As for my rule idea I understand it might be hard to enforce, although the thing is that since 2007 or so, the usage of filters and restrictions on minors have been getting increasingly abusive. I don't remember things being this bad before.

I think that that is sadly due to inappropriate things getting more accepted and more added everywhere.
The real problem is this. They should make P-word illegal.

Quote from: Streetwalker on May 02, 2013, 08:28:32 am

Even that is disrespect to the kids' private life. When you're over 13 and your parents can read all the chats you made with your friends or gf/bf, this can be quite embarrassing. But yeah, blocking stuff like p o r n is a normal protection for the younger of us, again not for 13-18 who are in the middle of puberty and need independance (yeah I know this doesn't mean anything but you know what teens like to do) and probably have enough judgement to know what they can do on internet or not.

Also an easy way to enforce that kind of law is just to make parental filter distributing illegal and voila.

In Dapianokid's situation, the content filtering is abusive and he should have a talk with his parents to know why they restricted him all of a sudden.

Out of personal experience, I know that 13 is too young to be left independent. Although a person may have it's privacy, if the kid has a problem showing what he has been doing, he probably wasn't doing something perfectly OK.

If I would get a kid, I might give his more independency from age 16 or above, when real maturity comes imo.
(And if my kid wouldn't be mature enough in my eyes then I'll extend the time). This however doesn't mean that I'm OK with it that he'd be doing BAD stuff on his computer.

@Pimathbrainiac: If your parents block stuff, you should NOT try to bypass it, but talk with your parents about it.
You should submit to their final word, no matter if you like it or not.
(Imagine we'd only obey and submit to our parents when we're okay with it...)

Also, I think I should also point out an point that seems quite important to me. It appears to be generally though that once you're 18 you don't have do honor your parents or respect them and you leave them. This IS wrong thinking.
A kid has to take care of his parents(even of his grandparents) and should only leave when the parents want it or marriage separates you from them.
But even when married or living elsewhere, you should respect your parents and obey them in the good. And instead of considering sick things like euthanasia, you should be there when they're old and can no longer take care of themselves just like they did to you.

Just wanted to get that out, since that's seemed quite important to me.

I try to talk to them about it. My mom is fine about this stuff, but my dad is a control freak.

I won't try to get past content-filtering unless Dad blocks Omni or something crazy like that, (still hoping he doesn't do that) and there is no way to get past the Steam throttle