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Re: Knight Filesystem Specification
« Reply #30 on: September 28, 2010, 11:00:32 pm »
It may count up the garbage and see if it's worth garbage collecting or not.
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Re: Knight Filesystem Specification
« Reply #31 on: September 28, 2010, 11:04:09 pm »
Ah sounds good :)

If someone doesn't reboot for a long while, I assume it will automatically GC when needed?
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Re: Knight Filesystem Specification
« Reply #32 on: September 28, 2010, 11:04:27 pm »
Yes.
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Re: Knight Filesystem Specification
« Reply #33 on: September 28, 2010, 11:05:02 pm »
What if someone decides to replace the batteries?
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Re: Knight Filesystem Specification
« Reply #34 on: September 28, 2010, 11:05:59 pm »
Nothing would be different... O_o
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Re: Knight Filesystem Specification
« Reply #35 on: September 28, 2010, 11:06:37 pm »
Ok good. Also, if you make your own linking software, will we be able to send any kind of file to the calc like on the TI-Nspire? On the TI-Nspire, if you want to send a Gameboy Color ROM, all you do is add a .tns extension at the end and you're set. I assume TI-Connect would not accept such file, though, right?

Also for batteries, will there be some protection against battery removal/dying during GC'ing? Or will it do like on the 83+ and random archived files vanish?
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Re: Knight Filesystem Specification
« Reply #36 on: September 29, 2010, 08:30:17 am »
It will check the battery state before starting, and probably inform the user that they should change the batteries really quick before the GC starts, and inform them of possible data loss.
As for files, you can send any file you like to KOS.
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Re: Knight Filesystem Specification
« Reply #37 on: September 29, 2010, 12:37:16 pm »
Great!
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Re: Knight Filesystem Specification
« Reply #38 on: September 29, 2010, 11:38:05 pm »
Quote from: SirCmpwn on September 28, 2010, 11:00:32 pm
It may count up the garbage and see if it's worth garbage collecting or not.

Sounds good, then. But what if it really needs to garbage collect in the middle of an operation or something? It's still gotta take that into account, and then it might as well just wait until then to do it instead of checking at boot.
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Re: Knight Filesystem Specification
« Reply #39 on: September 29, 2010, 11:41:41 pm »
Another thing: it would be nice to not call it Garbage Collecting. I always found this weird. It might be best to call it defragmenting or something, like when deleting an APP. In French, Garbage Collect is Memory Reorganizing, anyway. The first time I saw GC, I thought the calc was asking me to do a mem reset...
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Re: Knight Filesystem Specification
« Reply #40 on: September 29, 2010, 11:43:23 pm »
Yeah, I guess it does sound a bit weird...
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Re: Knight Filesystem Specification
« Reply #41 on: September 30, 2010, 12:27:23 am »
Agreed. Calling it Defragment is much more unambiguous.
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Re: Knight Filesystem Specification
« Reply #42 on: September 30, 2010, 08:39:48 am »
Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on September 29, 2010, 11:41:41 pm
Another thing: it would be nice to not call it Garbage Collecting. I always found this weird. It might be best to call it defragmenting or something, like when deleting an APP. In French, Garbage Collect is Memory Reorganizing, anyway. The first time I saw GC, I thought the calc was asking me to do a mem reset...
This may be the case, but I didn't make the term: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garbage_collection_%28computer_science%29
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Re: Knight Filesystem Specification
« Reply #43 on: September 30, 2010, 09:28:38 am »
Ah, right x.x. Well, if you call it that way, then it might be good to make it very visible somewhere in the readme or OS that this is just about fragmented mem that needs to be reorganized or something. That said, most ppl who may use your OS will probably be experienced calc users but some people with less experience may start using the shell later too if many software/games they want are made available only for KnightOS or if they get the OS from someone at school.
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Re: Knight Filesystem Specification
« Reply #44 on: September 30, 2010, 11:58:55 am »
Yeah, my first reactions after finding the GarbageCollect feature when I got my calc were (in this order):
  • Freaking out, thinking that everything was gonna be cleared
  • Trying it again to see what it did
  • Thinking it was fun and GarbageCollecting dozens of times a day just to see the message x.x

Also, wouldn't it be a waste to check for garbage at boot? It would have to check while saving stuff no matter what, and at the rate some of us use our calcs, we might have to garbage collect several times during use anyway.
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