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Re: KnightOS
« Reply #360 on: November 07, 2010, 05:26:51 pm »
Quote from: willrandship on November 07, 2010, 04:23:05 pm
I just wish the nspire could have a part in this victory :'( I want KnightOS too! Is there any chance Ndless could install it, even if it was only once per reboot?
Mride, they would probably accuse you of sticking an 89 in there :P

lol teachers. If my calc teacher knew I had symbolic on my calc she'd get mad. (Un)fortunately, we never use calcs on tests so it doesn't really matter :P
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Re: KnightOS
« Reply #361 on: November 07, 2010, 05:29:36 pm »
Quote from: SirCmpwn on November 07, 2010, 05:26:33 pm
We might be able to fake it, as in run a program that acts like an OS, but is really running under Ndless.
Oh, I was suggesting it would rule to have a 3rd party OS, because the TI-OS takes like 20 MB of archive or something, while most 3rd-party OSes wouldn't even take 2% of that, thus, leaving even more memory.
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Re: KnightOS
« Reply #362 on: November 07, 2010, 05:30:30 pm »
If that were to happen, I'd buy a Nspire :P
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Re: KnightOS
« Reply #363 on: November 07, 2010, 05:31:29 pm »
Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on November 07, 2010, 05:29:36 pm
Quote from: SirCmpwn on November 07, 2010, 05:26:33 pm
We might be able to fake it, as in run a program that acts like an OS, but is really running under Ndless.
Oh, I was suggesting it would rule to have a 3rd party OS, because the TI-OS takes like 20 MB of archive or something, while most 3rd-party OSes wouldn't even take 2% of that, thus, leaving even more memory.

TI-OS for the Nspire takes 20MB? You could install a variant of Linux for less than that.
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Re: KnightOS
« Reply #364 on: November 07, 2010, 05:32:10 pm »
Holy crap, that's horrible.  We should try and get DSL working when we get the key.
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Re: KnightOS
« Reply #365 on: November 07, 2010, 05:34:01 pm »
I like how you wrote "when" and not "if"  ;D
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Re: KnightOS
« Reply #366 on: November 07, 2010, 05:35:39 pm »
Are you a nonbeliever?  ARE YOU?!?!?!?!
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Re: KnightOS
« Reply #367 on: November 07, 2010, 05:39:22 pm »
No, of course not.
Silly Sir :P
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Re: KnightOS
« Reply #368 on: November 07, 2010, 05:39:40 pm »
I think it's 21 ish MB. I would need to check TI-BANK for the real size. TNOC can make it smaller, but it still remains big enough to take over half of your archive. The OS is filled with unused crap, apparently. We joked with BrandonW once saying maybe if he optimized the Nspire OS, he could port it to the 84+SE and it would still fit. ;D
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Re: KnightOS
« Reply #369 on: November 07, 2010, 05:40:26 pm »
Why won't they just let us control our own hardware?
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Re: KnightOS
« Reply #370 on: November 07, 2010, 05:41:03 pm »
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The OS is filled with unused crap, apparently.

Wow, that sounds even less optimized than my code. I didn't know that was possible

* Qwerty imagines a Linux based Nspire

You'd never need another calc (except maybe the Prizm)
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Re: KnightOS
« Reply #371 on: November 07, 2010, 05:42:42 pm »
Most of the Nspire OS is not even coded by TI. They took something called Nucleus, I think, and modified it to run on the Nspire hardware and add necessary math functions. In the non-CAS OSes, the CAS functions are listed, but will tell you a message saying you need the CAS model to use those. Why didn't they just get rid of that?
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Re: KnightOS
« Reply #372 on: November 07, 2010, 05:44:51 pm »
Nucleus is an OS written by Mentor Graphics. Apparently they provide the OS for all of TI's ARM based devices:

http://www.mentor.com/embedded-software/cpu/texas-instruments/
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Re: KnightOS
« Reply #373 on: November 07, 2010, 05:46:00 pm »
AH, I am starting to wonder if TI even wrote any part of the OS...
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Re: KnightOS
« Reply #374 on: November 07, 2010, 05:51:13 pm »
What I wonder is why they bothered to use a real time OS. I can't imagine why they needed exact timings for the OS routines. It's not as if they used it to their advantage and optimized the code.

EDIT: I think the android OS, written by the same company for what appears to be the same family of processors by TI, might work on the Nspire. Also, apparently HP devices use TI processors. The irony.
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