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Re: KnightOS
« Reply #495 on: November 14, 2010, 05:08:40 pm »
Yeah, it'll probably be like real computers, where RAM is just for current progs.
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Re: KnightOS
« Reply #496 on: November 14, 2010, 06:17:38 pm »
Quote from: SirCmpwn on November 13, 2010, 10:02:59 pm
5] It is similar.  I've attached the character set.
Erm, I'm not seeing it.

Quote from: SirCmpwn on November 13, 2010, 10:02:59 pm
B] As a flash drive, yes.  If I'm successful with my tests.
C] Same as a flash drive.  It will be absurdly easy, no special software required.
Oh, so is there a particular reason why TI-Connect is so slow?  Is it because it was inefficiently coded, or for some other reason?

Wonder what would happen if I tried to install a tiny version of Linux in my calc.
"Hey, look, everybody.  I'm running Linux off of my calculator!"
(*Non-nerd friends facepalm, nerd friends express enthusiasm, teachers start banning me from school computers for 'hacking'.)

Hmm.  Convert and install a password hacking program too?  (Usually, they go on CDs)  Just to demonstrate how a calc can pwn a computer?


KnightOS is going to be so awesome.
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Re: KnightOS
« Reply #497 on: November 14, 2010, 06:23:30 pm »
There isn't a VAT, that's a TIOS thing.  The entire filesystem is stored in ROM.  And RAM is cleared everytime you turn on the calculator.  Booting Linux from a flash drive would be absurdly awesome.  How big is DSL?
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Re: KnightOS
« Reply #498 on: November 14, 2010, 06:25:46 pm »
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There isn't a VAT, that's a TIOS thing.  The entire filesystem is stored in ROM.  And RAM is cleared everytime you turn on the calculator.  Booting Linux from a flash drive would be absurdly awesome.  How big is DSL?
50MB, I believe.
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Re: KnightOS
« Reply #499 on: November 14, 2010, 06:28:23 pm »
Quote from: FinaleTI on November 14, 2010, 06:25:46 pm
Quote from: SirCmpwn on November 14, 2010, 06:23:30 pm
There isn't a VAT, that's a TIOS thing.  The entire filesystem is stored in ROM.  And RAM is cleared everytime you turn on the calculator.  Booting Linux from a flash drive would be absurdly awesome.  How big is DSL?
50MB, I believe.
Crap.  Buy 25 calcs?  Use nspire?
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Re: KnightOS
« Reply #500 on: November 14, 2010, 06:39:57 pm »
Quote from: FinaleTI on November 14, 2010, 06:25:46 pm
Quote from: SirCmpwn on November 14, 2010, 06:23:30 pm
There isn't a VAT, that's a TIOS thing.  The entire filesystem is stored in ROM.  And RAM is cleared everytime you turn on the calculator.  Booting Linux from a flash drive would be absurdly awesome.  How big is DSL?
50MB, I believe.

compressed. Uncompressed that would be 250 MB, unfortunately.

But we could always make our own flavor :D
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Re: KnightOS
« Reply #501 on: November 14, 2010, 06:40:14 pm »
Quote from: FinaleTI on November 14, 2010, 06:25:46 pm
Quote from: SirCmpwn on November 14, 2010, 06:23:30 pm
There isn't a VAT, that's a TIOS thing.  The entire filesystem is stored in ROM.  And RAM is cleared everytime you turn on the calculator.  Booting Linux from a flash drive would be absurdly awesome.  How big is DSL?
50MB, I believe.

I've seen versions that get to around 10 MB. We could probably get much lower if the GUI was eliminated.
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Re: KnightOS
« Reply #502 on: November 14, 2010, 06:42:34 pm »
Quote from: Qwerty.55 on November 14, 2010, 06:40:14 pm
Quote from: FinaleTI on November 14, 2010, 06:25:46 pm
Quote from: SirCmpwn on November 14, 2010, 06:23:30 pm
There isn't a VAT, that's a TIOS thing.  The entire filesystem is stored in ROM.  And RAM is cleared everytime you turn on the calculator.  Booting Linux from a flash drive would be absurdly awesome.  How big is DSL?
50MB, I believe.

I've seen versions that get to around 10 MB.
Unfortunately, that's still about 5x to big.

Maybe if a Linux distro was written specially for TI 83+/84+'s instead of being ported....
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Re: KnightOS
« Reply #503 on: November 14, 2010, 06:54:43 pm »
Quote from: FinaleTI on November 14, 2010, 06:42:34 pm
Quote from: Qwerty.55 on November 14, 2010, 06:40:14 pm
Quote from: FinaleTI on November 14, 2010, 06:25:46 pm
Quote from: SirCmpwn on November 14, 2010, 06:23:30 pm
There isn't a VAT, that's a TIOS thing.  The entire filesystem is stored in ROM.  And RAM is cleared everytime you turn on the calculator.  Booting Linux from a flash drive would be absurdly awesome.  How big is DSL?
50MB, I believe.

I've seen versions that get to around 10 MB.
Unfortunately, that's still about 5x to big.

Maybe if a Linux distro was written specially for TI 83+/84+'s instead of being ported....

Maybe just keep the very bare minimum in graphics, and store all programs on a USB and run it from there?  So if I wanted to use the internet, I'd have to have a copy of firefox on another flash drive and run it from there?
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Re: KnightOS
« Reply #504 on: November 14, 2010, 06:55:08 pm »
You guys do realize that Linux will never actually run on the calculator, the calculator might just provide a means to boot into Linux on a PC.
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Re: KnightOS
« Reply #505 on: November 14, 2010, 06:57:07 pm »
Yeah, I know.  It'd just be cool to jack in the calc, and 'pretend' that the calculator has taken over the computer.
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Re: KnightOS
« Reply #506 on: November 14, 2010, 06:57:20 pm »
But tomsrtbt is supposed to fit on a floppy drive...
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Re: KnightOS
« Reply #507 on: November 14, 2010, 07:56:16 pm »
Heavily compressed, probably. The real issue is how pathetic the hardware is, not just the space, right sir?
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Re: KnightOS
« Reply #508 on: November 14, 2010, 07:57:06 pm »
Quote from: willrandship on November 14, 2010, 07:56:16 pm
Heavily compressed, probably. The real issue is how pathetic the hardware is, not just the space, right sir?
The pathetic hardware is what defines the space. ;-) But yeah.
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Re: KnightOS
« Reply #509 on: November 14, 2010, 07:59:45 pm »
It could be doable.  If someone makes an extremely bare-bones Linux distro in under 2MB, it is possible.  I think it's more likely to be able to boot into an Nspire.
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