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Re: Lua compatibility accross Nspire OSes
« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2011, 08:35:50 pm »
...maybe with REAL color this time XD
EDIT:I'm pretty sure GBA and N64(I doubt it, but still) will be possible, too.
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Re: Lua compatibility accross Nspire OSes
« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2011, 01:19:27 pm »
Lua does work on the new CX (i have one and tried out the game aliens).
you prob already new this but to be certain :)
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Re: Lua compatibility accross Nspire OSes
« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2011, 01:26:53 pm »
I don't think it's a good idea to attempt Ndless for OS 3.0 right now.  TI just gave us Lua tools in hopes we would just use those for everything and drop the hacking.  Now that they at least pretend to like us, we should at least pretend to be interested in what they gave to us.  If we open up Ndless 3.0 for C and ASM development on the CX, then they might just suspend the Lua tools that many people here use.  I don't think it's fair to them if their tools get taken away, since then they have no purpose for their calculator.

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Re: Lua compatibility accross Nspire OSes
« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2011, 01:41:33 pm »
I don't think it's a good idea to attempt Ndless for OS 3.0 right now.  TI just gave us Lua tools in hopes we would just use those for everything and drop the hacking.  Now that they at least pretend to like us, we should at least pretend to be interested in what they gave to us.  If we open up Ndless 3.0 for C and ASM development on the CX, then they might just suspend the Lua tools that many people here use.  I don't think it's fair to them if their tools get taken away, since then they have no purpose for their calculator.
is this posted in the wrong thread or am i blind?
this thread is about Lua and not about ndless :)
check post below so nvm
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Re: Lua compatibility accross Nspire OSes
« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2011, 01:44:34 pm »
Once Ndless works on OS 3.0...

You've found a way?

Well, it was in response to this primarily.

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Re: Lua compatibility accross Nspire OSes
« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2011, 01:50:21 pm »
@Ashbad : I probably can't say much but TI's really working with LUA stuff and I don't think ndless will stop them from improving lua tools etc. (to the contrary, it would make them improve it even more, to compete with what ndless stuff would be able to do)
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« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2011, 01:52:04 pm »
Well, if we happened to use something like Lua to help us make Ndless, they would take it away just due to that.  They would rather no programming than completely unbounded programming, I'm sure.

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Re: Lua compatibility accross Nspire OSes
« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2011, 01:52:58 pm »
Well, if we happened to use something like Lua to help us make Ndless, they would take it away just due to that.  They would rather no programming than completely unbounded programming, I'm sure.
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Re: Lua compatibility accross Nspire OSes
« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2011, 02:39:43 pm »
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TI just gave us Lua tools in hopes we would just use those for everything and drop the hacking.
If that's what they're hoping, well, they're living in a fantasy world of delusion ;)
As mentioned at length in another thread, there are lots of things that Lua can't do. Especially if it's not JITed (and it doesn't seem to be, on the Nspire), just have a look at the speedup that LuaJIT yields (x70 and more in some heavy computations) :)

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Now that they at least pretend to like us,
Well, they had little choice but releasing the documentation and tool, after a) most of the documentation had already been found through reverse-engineering and b) the documentation and tool was involuntarily leaked on the website of a third party ;)

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we should at least pretend to be interested in what they gave to us.
Speaking for myself, I pretend that Lua is definitely a way forward from the sub-par BASIC (which, in some areas, doesn't even have the functionality provided by the TI-81 20 years ago), but I'm not very interested in programming in Lua. For my own purposes, I remain interested mainly in C/ASM programming.
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(but of course, I'd hate Lua disappearing from the Nspire and people being deprived from programming with that interesting language)

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If we open up Ndless 3.0 for C and ASM development on the CX, then they might just suspend the Lua tools that many people here use.  I don't think it's fair to them if their tools get taken away, since then they have no purpose for their calculator.
Besides users and programmers, teachers are warming up to Lua. By now, the backlash for suppressing Lua from the OS as a whole would be huge... Teachers could always try to blame "hackers", but would that bode well with users ?
IMO again, while there may be reasons against Ndless 3.0 being based on Lua, the fear of TI removing Lua probably isn't a very good one - at least, I think so :)
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