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So I've always had problems remembering the formula for the area of a triangle. Until last night, when my mom pointed out that a triangle is half of a square, and suddenly it all made sense (she also remarked that she had had the same problem with that formula until someone had pointed that fact out to her).
It's not that we're missing the obvious. The reason is that math teachers don't (usually) explain the formula for the area of a triangle in those terms, and most people's brains are not wired to make the connection on their own, especially at the point in their development when they are first introduced to these formulas (in fact, the way math classes are often structured can even aggravate the problem, as the formula for the area of a square is introduced much earlier than the formula for the area of a triangle).


Quote from: Formula for the area of a Square
L x W = Area, where L is the length of the square and W is the width of the square
Quote from: Formula for the area of a Triangle
1/2 x B x H = Area, where B is the base of the triangle and H is the height of the triangle

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Re: A "new" way of looking at the formula for the area of a triangle
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2011, 05:32:30 pm »
Or, use Hero's formula:
Area = the square root of ( s (s-a) (s-b) (s-c) ) when a, b, and c are the three sides and s is the semi-perimeter ( 1/2(a+b+c) )

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Re: A "new" way of looking at the formula for the area of a triangle
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2011, 05:50:40 pm »
this is exactly how my teachers in elementary school taught the formula. you can also point out that the sum of a triangle's angles are 180 and a square is 360 (360/180 = 2). a pentagon's angles sum to 540. it can also be divided into 3 triangles. 540/180 = 3


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Re: A "new" way of looking at the formula for the area of a triangle
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2011, 05:54:22 pm »
this is exactly how my teachers in elementary school taught the formula.
I didn't learn about finding the area of a triangle until Prealgebra in 8th grade. No wonder America's gotten behind in mathematics.

you can also point out that the sum of a triangle's angles are 180 and a square is 360 (360/180 = 2). a pentagon's angles sum to 540. it can also be divided into 3 triangles. 540/180 = 3
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Re: A "new" way of looking at the formula for the area of a triangle
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2011, 05:56:57 pm »
Or, use Hero's formula:
Area = the square root of ( s (s-a) (s-b) (s-c) ) when a, b, and c are the three sides and s is the semi-perimeter ( 1/2(a+b+c) )
you mean Heron's?  :P

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Re: A "new" way of looking at the formula for the area of a triangle
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2011, 05:57:51 pm »
Umm, that's exactly how I learned it too. .5*b*h. I live in Utah, where we have the 3rd highest education rating, but also the lowest education funding from taxes :P learned that in, let me think, somewhere between 4-6 grade.

I dont' remember well, because it's been 5-7 years now.

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Re: A "new" way of looking at the formula for the area of a triangle
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2011, 05:59:10 pm »
Or, use Hero's formula:
Area = the square root of ( s (s-a) (s-b) (s-c) ) when a, b, and c are the three sides and s is the semi-perimeter ( 1/2(a+b+c) )
you mean Heron's?  :P

This can be refered to as both Hero's and Heron's formula.  When I was in geometry, I remember reading ahead in my book to get this formula, and it said that both names are commonly used.

I think there also is a formula called the "Shoelace Formula" for finding the area of a triangle, but I never really investigated on how to go about using that formula. EDIT: Er, I guess the Shoelace Formula can be used to find the area of any polygon where the verticices are given ordered pairs as points.
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Re: A "new" way of looking at the formula for the area of a triangle
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2011, 05:59:52 pm »
Or, use Hero's formula:
Area = the square root of ( s (s-a) (s-b) (s-c) ) when a, b, and c are the three sides and s is the semi-perimeter ( 1/2(a+b+c) )
you mean Heron's?  :P
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edit: @willrandship maybe it's a coastal thing to not teach it that way?
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Re: A "new" way of looking at the formula for the area of a triangle
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2011, 06:01:49 pm »
or this formula?
V=A*B*sin[theta]
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Re: A "new" way of looking at the formula for the area of a triangle
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2011, 06:02:28 pm »
Heck, I've never lived anywhere but Utah, so I couldn't tell you :P

i'm afraid one thing they tend to lack aroun' here is teachin' how to talk withou' a Utah accen'. We pronounce my town Tremonuhn. :P

Edit: but that takes trig :P not teaching that to twelve year olds.
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Re: A "new" way of looking at the formula for the area of a triangle
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2011, 06:04:14 pm »
for clarification, i didnt post it as being a "heron's formula"
I love this formula because this pretty much get all the triangle's area.
EDIT: I messed around with trigs when I was 11  >:D
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Re: A "new" way of looking at the formula for the area of a triangle
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2011, 06:08:25 pm »
i remember learning the formula for a triangle in 3rd or 4th grade, along with a square and the approximation of a circle being 3 * r * r. in sixth grade i began learning formulas for 3-D shapes like cones, any-base pyramids, spheres. even had to describe relationships. volume of a cone with radius 1 height 1 is 1/3 the volume of a unit cube. volume of a sphere of radius 1 is 2/3 of a unit cube. completely forget why though.


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Re: A "new" way of looking at the formula for the area of a triangle
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2011, 06:09:09 pm »
I was in Honors math, and had an amazing teacher from 5th-8th. before that, i had had one other good math  teacher in fourth. So i've been pretty lucky.
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Re: A "new" way of looking at the formula for the area of a triangle
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2011, 06:51:55 pm »
I learned a similar explanation for the volume of a sphere: if you enclose the sphere in the smallest cylinder possible, it takes up exactly 2/3 of the space, so then you just need to find the volume of the cylinder and multiply it by 2/3.

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Re: A "new" way of looking at the formula for the area of a triangle
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2011, 07:43:04 pm »
Or, just do 4/3piR^3.....
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