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Re: Epic Things you Built in Minecraft
« Reply #45 on: June 20, 2013, 04:55:21 am »
My friend once melted is graphic card when playing minecraft >.<

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Re: Epic Things you Built in Minecraft
« Reply #46 on: June 20, 2013, 07:24:25 am »
This is kinda funny to read about video card shader issues in a Minecraft thread, considering how the graphics are very PSOne-like. :P
Actually Minecraft is freaking unoprtimized. I think Notch had A LOT of fun when writing the rendering engine. :P It's also quite CPU intensive but surprisingly you can largely decrease RAM allocation if you don't use many mods.
If you don't have a NASA computer, it'll be very hard to max it. :P
« Last Edit: June 20, 2013, 07:25:49 am by Streetwalker »

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Re: Re: Epic Things you Built in Minecraft
« Reply #47 on: June 20, 2013, 11:42:04 am »
It might also have to do with using java as language. It's like using Casio PRIZM BASIC to make a full resolution raycaster with variable wall height support. Even if the PRIZM was overclocked and modded to run safely at 4 GHz the game would still run choppy.

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Re: Epic Things you Built in Minecraft
« Reply #48 on: June 20, 2013, 11:51:24 am »
I totally loled at that one :P
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Re: Epic Things you Built in Minecraft
« Reply #49 on: June 22, 2013, 02:14:54 pm »
The main problem now is that I have a 256MB Radeon HD 4650. <_< This card sucks. :P
That's nothing. My old computer had an ATI Radeon 9250+ 128 MB (PCI) since I had no PCI-E nor AGP slot. It could barely run any game made after 2005 because it had no Pixel Shader 2.0 support. It was even worse before I install that card, as I had on-board Intel graphics >.<

This is kinda funny to read about video card shader issues in a Minecraft thread, considering how the graphics are very PSOne-like. :P

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And ya, They graphics may be PSone styled, but you must remember, they made it in Java. I personally like Java, but Minecraft SHOULD NOT have been made in Java. It is definitely not the right language for such a mass resource intensive game. They need to change it all to C++ already. The only reason they don't, is because it will, "make modding harder for the community". When really, Modding something so simple is not harder, it is just slightly different. (emphasis on slightly).

I guess for now we will have to stick with our extreme graphics cards to run such a simple game, XD.

This is kinda funny to read about video card shader issues in a Minecraft thread, considering how the graphics are very PSOne-like. :P
Actually Minecraft is freaking unoprtimized. I think Notch had A LOT of fun when writing the rendering engine. :P It's also quite CPU intensive but surprisingly you can largely decrease RAM allocation if you don't use many mods.
If you don't have a NASA computer, it'll be very hard to max it. :P

Well without mods I get about 40-50 FPS on all high settings :). My computer isn't even "great" it's just average.
« Last Edit: June 22, 2013, 02:18:50 pm by XiiR3CR34T10N »

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Re: Epic Things you Built in Minecraft
« Reply #50 on: June 22, 2013, 02:31:35 pm »
The worst part about on-board video and that ATI Radeon card is that it was impossible to setup the external card as your primary one, so the only way to use it was to use 2 monitors with everything such as games showing up in the 2nd screen by default.

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Re: Epic Things you Built in Minecraft
« Reply #51 on: June 22, 2013, 02:38:42 pm »
Yep! ::) :-\

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Re: Epic Things you Built in Minecraft
« Reply #52 on: June 22, 2013, 02:39:42 pm »
I haven't played minecraft for a while, but iirc my laptop with its integrated intel hd 3000 poc can barely manage ~20fps w/ optifine. It's kind of painful, especially when a next-gen physics engine which hasn't even landed on big-name consoles yet gets about 30-40 :P
And I hear 1.5.X fps is even worse? How'd they manage that ???

As for things built, iirc I once made a wood plank cube house, ran out of wood and finished it off with dirt. Beautiful :P
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Re: Epic Things you Built in Minecraft
« Reply #53 on: June 22, 2013, 02:48:40 pm »
As for things built, iirc I once made a wood plank cube house, ran out of wood and finished it off with dirt. Beautiful :P
It truly is!

I haven't played minecraft for a while, but iirc my laptop with its integrated intel hd 3000 poc can barely manage ~20fps w/ optifine. It's kind of painful, especially when a next-gen physics engine which hasn't even landed on big-name consoles yet gets about 30-40 :P
And I hear 1.5.X fps is even worse? How'd they manage that ???
You mean the 1.5.2 as in update? The FPS is worse because the more blocks they add, the more numbers the game must check through when loading chunks. literally, it is exponentially more time consuming.
« Last Edit: June 22, 2013, 02:49:09 pm by XiiR3CR34T10N »

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Re: Epic Things you Built in Minecraft
« Reply #54 on: June 22, 2013, 04:50:34 pm »
And ya, They graphics may be PSone styled, but you must remember, they made it in Java. I personally like Java, but Minecraft SHOULD NOT have been made in Java. It is definitely not the right language for such a mass resource intensive game. They need to change it all to C++ already. The only reason they don't, is because it will, "make modding harder for the community". When really, Modding something so simple is not harder, it is just slightly different. (emphasis on slightly).
Well, It'd be very long to port the whole game to C++. But GCC can compile java to native code. :D
Also modding is not that hard with native code, with proper APIs. Only issue is cross compilation for different OSes and 32/64 bit.

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Re: Epic Things you Built in Minecraft
« Reply #55 on: June 22, 2013, 04:54:40 pm »
Didn't the author (Notch) also plan to stop working on Minecraft at some point? That could be one other motivation for him to not convert it to another language.

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Re: Epic Things you Built in Minecraft
« Reply #56 on: June 22, 2013, 04:55:37 pm »
He did stop but there's still Jeb and the rest of the crew. ;)

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Re: Epic Things you Built in Minecraft
« Reply #57 on: June 22, 2013, 05:11:13 pm »
Oh ok I thought he reconsidered, since we still see Minecraft updates every now and then. I also thought that he was working on the PC version in solo.

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Re: Epic Things you Built in Minecraft
« Reply #58 on: June 22, 2013, 08:13:49 pm »
I think MineTest is in C++... And It is a LOT less resource dependant.
I can actually run it on a netbook.


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Re: Epic Things you Built in Minecraft
« Reply #59 on: June 26, 2013, 01:18:35 am »
Oh ok I thought he reconsidered, since we still see Minecraft updates every now and then. I also thought that he was working on the PC version in solo.

Nah! Notch is working on 0x10c, which frankly, is the coolest thing I've seen so far. As far as pc minecraft Jeb and the crew are still making updates.