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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #45 on: September 30, 2010, 06:46:14 am »
wow, sound good, though TILP isnt the best for interacting with the nsprie (no offense)
but for everything else, it works beautiful (even with emu8x :D)
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #46 on: September 30, 2010, 09:04:39 am »
Quote from: ExtendeD on September 30, 2010, 06:15:39 am
Ndless 1.7 installation now only requires a linking program, so TiLP can be used.
I think several developers such as bwang are testing Ndless 1.7 from Linux.
Ok good to hear :)
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #47 on: September 30, 2010, 10:48:12 am »
Any chance of fixing the glitch where you have to be connected to a computer to install?
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #48 on: September 30, 2010, 12:27:46 pm »
I'm currently reworking the installation process to get rid of the hot reboot.
This should simultaneously fix "Random black screen after reboot at installation time", "Random crash when running programs on real hardware:", "Variables changed to theta:", "Broken uninstallation:" and "Reboot when turning the calculator on:".

But I have unfortunately no clue for this connection requirement :(
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #49 on: September 30, 2010, 12:31:00 pm »
Well, the usb problems seem to happen during hot reboot (if not plugged into usb, that is when the "random black screen" occurs, or sometimes vertical lines on the screen, which suggest some data overflowing into the screen buffer)

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On an unrelated note, I receive a database error when I try to log into the hackspire wiki.

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On a related note again, I installed Ndless while plugged into USB, then I unplugged it and used my console program to hot-reboot. I still got the vertical lines. Perhaps there is some sort of inherent problem in OS 1.7 with booting again without reloading the OS?
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #50 on: September 30, 2010, 02:17:52 pm »
Here is what I have understood from the different bug reports: to guarantee no clock freeze and no black screen, the sequence must be to:
- run the installer
- connect the cable during the installation
- keep the cable plugged in during hot reboot

Without hot reboot, there shouldn't be any black screen issue, but the freeze issue probably won't be fixed.

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Perhaps there is some sort of inherent problem in OS 1.7 with booting again without reloading the OS?

It does seem to make the OS very unstable, and the "theta" unstability is most probably related. This is why I'm getting rid of it.
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #51 on: September 30, 2010, 02:21:01 pm »
Okay, good. I think it will really be appreciated if we could install Ndless when not near a computer... especially when testing a program that might crash the calculator. We could even spread Ndless around in schools once it is released :D
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #52 on: September 30, 2010, 02:21:57 pm »
Sure, this a blocking issue.
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #53 on: September 30, 2010, 06:53:55 pm »
I hope you can find a way to have Ndless be installable when not connected to a computer. By the way, is the install process very long? (After a crash)
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #54 on: September 30, 2010, 07:12:14 pm »
It's under 30 seconds, I think.
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #55 on: September 30, 2010, 07:13:13 pm »
Well, that is, if it works on the first try.  It usually takes between 7-10 tries (for me, at least).  The least I ever got was 4.
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #56 on: September 30, 2010, 07:14:35 pm »
It always works the first try for me if I plug it into the computer before starting the installer. Otherwise it freezes during the hot reboot.
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #57 on: September 30, 2010, 09:05:09 pm »
Darn x.x... that must be kinda hectic when you are testing a game you are working on on-calc x.x
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #58 on: September 30, 2010, 10:15:53 pm »
the freeze is my main problem, keep up the good work thouugh extendeD

(btw, A teacher at school is some special member of TI or something, and she knows why asm is blocked.... she said it WASNT because of games, but for something else that she cant tell me...)
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #59 on: September 30, 2010, 10:22:26 pm »
Possibly, running the CAS OS/another CAS program on the regular Nspire...
Math programs can be much more dangerous to TI than games.

I still think games had a little to do with it, though.
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