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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2010, 05:48:15 pm »
I was thinking: is there any reason to wait to make games and progs that support the touchpad? You can still use them, even if the OS doesn't support them, since you're writing in raw asm, correct? I was thinking about getting myself one, so I can make some C headers and such. It would be nice to already have some touchpad stuff before it comes out.

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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2010, 06:19:21 pm »
Correct. You interface with the memory mapped keys directly.
We might want to move the keymap to a separate file and have a keys-noncas.h and a keys-cas.h.

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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2010, 06:25:24 pm »
does anyone know what stage 1.7 is at?
is it debugging, or still being coded?
When should we expect a release?

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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2010, 06:33:44 pm »
Under bug fixing, I believe.

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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2010, 03:49:34 pm »
Anyone know if it will be possible to install 1.7 on CAS Touchpad, or will we have to wait till 2.0 for Touchpad support?

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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #20 on: September 25, 2010, 04:06:43 pm »
I heard it is impossible on the CAS touchpad because apparently the OS will reboot non-stop, regardless of the keypad used. I could be wrong, though.

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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2010, 04:44:13 pm »
why is it hard to make ndless for os 1.7 compared to 1.1?
shouldn't it be easy? as in they have to code for 1.1 so they need to find a work around to make it work in 1.7.


in other words, what will be the structural differences be of the two versions?
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2010, 04:59:58 pm »
Apparently, OS 1.7 itself just won't even work on the CAS Touchpad Nspire, while 1.1 and 1.6 do.
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #23 on: September 25, 2010, 11:48:56 pm »
Yeah that's the major problem. Also I think even if we could trick the Nspire into accepting it, the keymap would be different and the TouchPad wouldn't be supported.

I heard that once the bugs for 1.7 are fixed (Nspire for 1.7 was rewritten with many helpful changes, I believe), then porting for 2.0 will only require finding new "syscalls".  ::)

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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2010, 12:13:24 am »
I'm not sure about 2.0 but I heard that it would not require much modifications to be ported. It seemed to be a matter of finding the different memory addresses for specific things.

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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #25 on: September 26, 2010, 10:14:43 am »
hmm? there is a ndless 1.6?

or am I misreading your post?

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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #26 on: September 26, 2010, 10:17:53 am »
I never heard of a Ndless 1.6.  OS 1.6 is probably what is being referred to.


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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #27 on: September 26, 2010, 10:19:31 am »
Yeah, OS 1.7, not Ndless 1.7. The CAS Touchpad won't boot OS 1.7 for some unknown reason, nothing to do with Ndless (if I understand it correctly).



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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #28 on: September 26, 2010, 10:24:04 am »
ah, ok, nvmd then :)

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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #29 on: September 26, 2010, 02:45:15 pm »
What TC01 said. I have no clue why OS 1.1 would work but not 1.7. I heard some older OSes also work fine. There must be something different in OS 1.7 that prevents it from working on newer hardware. IMHO TI should have let it work, because not everyone wants to waste several more KB/MB just for a newer OS.