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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #30 on: September 26, 2010, 05:30:38 pm »
OS 1.1 does "work" on the nspire, but it's practically useless. The touchpad doesn't work, and the whole key layout is scrambled. I think that even if 1.7 were to somehow be forced to work on the Nspire, the touchpad would not be supported and wouldn't work well.
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #31 on: September 26, 2010, 05:33:05 pm »
Yeah all keys would most likely be scrambled as well.
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #32 on: September 26, 2010, 05:34:34 pm »
Yes, OS 1.7 will not work with the touchpad keypad.
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #33 on: September 26, 2010, 05:35:23 pm »
The developers seem to need help, but due to the whole issue of privacy, no one really knows how!
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #34 on: September 26, 2010, 06:00:36 pm »
It's not really about the piracy issue. More the issue about the project not falling under the wrong hands. Any new forum member could be a spy from TI trying to get his hands on the info on how Ndless works, using that info to help TI staff to patch future Nspire OSes to prevent Ndless from working on them. Now Ndless seems to progress again, though. I assume it will take a while to come out but you need to be patient. After all, ExtendeD and geogeo are not paid to work on this software and they have done a great job so far, when they could have devoted all that precious time on their own lives.
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #35 on: September 26, 2010, 06:01:33 pm »
Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on September 26, 2010, 06:00:36 pm
It's not really about the piracy issue. More the issue about the project not falling under the wrong hands. Any new forum member could be a spy from TI trying to get his hands on the info on how Ndless works, using that info to help TI staff to patch future Nspire OSes to prevent Ndless from working on them. Now Ndless seems to progress again, though. I assume it will take a while to come out but you need to be patient. After all, ExtendeD and geogeo are not paid to work on this software and they have done a great job so far, when they could have devoted all that precious time on their own lives.

He said "privacy", not "piracy" :)
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #36 on: September 26, 2010, 06:09:12 pm »
woops I typed piracy instead x.x. My bad.
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #37 on: September 26, 2010, 06:14:40 pm »
Quote from: codeslicer on September 26, 2010, 05:35:23 pm
The developers seem to need help, but due to the whole issue of privacy, no one really knows how!
The code is not private; the current build of Ndless 1.7 is in a public SVN.
The idea is, if you are enough of a developer to beta-test Ndless 1.7 without breaking anything and provide useful bug reports, you should know at least enough to compile it from source.
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #38 on: September 26, 2010, 06:21:21 pm »
Oh right, the SVN x.x. I wonder if this is safe, though (due to TI)? Initially, I think that was the initial reason why there was no public code. Is the SVN password-protected/invite-only?
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #39 on: September 26, 2010, 06:22:32 pm »
Well, there is a password, but it is available publicly just about everywhere.
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #40 on: September 26, 2010, 06:24:55 pm »
Ah ok. I hope things goes fine at least. I also hope some people can help figuring out some of the issues if ExtendeD and geogeo are still busy.
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #41 on: September 27, 2010, 07:47:20 am »
The open issues are identified in the first post of the topic. We are open to any information and contribution to fix them.

And as bwang points out, we would like developers to port their programs to Ndless 1.7 and post any bug report or suggestion. Building from the source code shouldn't be difficult, we can provide help if needed.
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #42 on: September 27, 2010, 02:33:27 pm »
really the only way to block ndless now is to prevent all forms on downgrading..
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #43 on: September 29, 2010, 11:46:08 pm »
Question, will Ndless 1.7 be installable on Linux and Mac? From what I remember, 1.1 wasn't, right? Or could you use Wine or something to do it? I don't remember anymore, but I remember someone asking if it was possible, before.
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Re: Ndless 1.7 for TI-Nspire
« Reply #44 on: September 30, 2010, 06:15:39 am »
Ndless 1.7 installation now only requires a linking program, so TiLP can be used.
I think several developers such as bwang are testing Ndless 1.7 from Linux.
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