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Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
« Reply #120 on: April 10, 2011, 09:55:27 pm »
What are the chances of bricking my calculator if I do that. I heard about that happening to some people
To do what ?? Removing the boot2 update ? There is no chance to break the calc because if the update file is invalid, TI-Nspire Computer Link Software will refuse update.
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Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
« Reply #121 on: April 10, 2011, 09:57:25 pm »
I mean brick it with the OS
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Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
« Reply #122 on: April 10, 2011, 10:01:35 pm »
I mean brick it with the OS
Ah, ok, you're talking about the OS 2.0.0.1188 incident. One time over 14 updates I've got, and no more than 15 guys for this update. It means that the risk is really really small.
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Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
« Reply #123 on: April 11, 2011, 01:57:57 pm »
first time that i hear about tnoc, could be possible that with the os 3.0 installed, can i downgrade my os to 2.1 versión???

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Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
« Reply #124 on: April 11, 2011, 02:03:08 pm »
first time that i hear about tnoc, could be possible that with the os 3.0 installed, can i downgrade my os to 2.1 versión???
Only if you modified the OS with TNOC before sending it to your calculator. In your case, I think the damage has already been done.
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Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
« Reply #125 on: April 11, 2011, 02:37:41 pm »
Welcome on the forums. Sadly if you installed OS 3.0 before modifying its content with TNOC, it's too late. You would have to use this.

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Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
« Reply #126 on: April 11, 2011, 02:49:28 pm »
i have a question about de .TNC format of the OS files, it can be opened and extracted by 7-zip, it means like a compresed file, 7-zip recognize this files like one of its suported formats of compresion, i mean, ¿which is the compresión format of the .TNC files? i tested TNOC and this program can operate into this compresión format deleting archives, i think that if a .TNC file is modified replacing its boot2.img file with the boot2.img file of an older versión and be instaled in the handheld, it will modify the boot2 sector of the handheld to this older versión, if somebody knows the compresión format please answer my question, is a theory but i would like to try it.

goodbye and thank you for help :)

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Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
« Reply #127 on: April 11, 2011, 02:53:42 pm »
i have a question about de .TNC format of the OS files, it can be opened and extracted by 7-zip, it means like a compresed file, 7-zip recognize this files like one of its suported formats of compresion, i mean, ¿which is the compresión format of the .TNC files? i tested TNOC and this program can operate into this compresión format deleting archives, i think that if a .TNC file is modified replacing its boot2.img file with the boot2.img file of an older versión and be instaled in the handheld, it will modify the boot2 sector of the handheld to this older versión, if somebody knows the compresión format please answer my question, is a theory but i would like to try it.

goodbye and thank you for help :)


We've allready tried last year.

You cannot downgrade the boot2 by using a TNC/TNO file, as the OS will only rewrite the boot2 area if the included boot2.img file has a higher version number.
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Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
« Reply #128 on: April 11, 2011, 03:07:58 pm »
You cannot downgrade the boot2 by using a TNC/TNO file, as the OS will only rewrite the boot2 area if the included boot2.img file has a higher version number.
Is it possible to change the version number, or do we need the RSA keys in order to do that?

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Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
« Reply #129 on: April 11, 2011, 03:14:41 pm »
You cannot downgrade the boot2 by using a TNC/TNO file, as the OS will only rewrite the boot2 area if the included boot2.img file has a higher version number.
Is it possible to change the version number, or do we need the RSA keys in order to do that?

We need the RSA keys.
It would have been too easy...
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Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
« Reply #130 on: April 13, 2011, 05:36:15 am »
There's a problem in os.h: _SYSCALL invokes _SYSCALL_SWI with 3 arguments, whereas _SYSCALL_SWI actually takes 4 :)

For reference, I'm currently adding the export the 10 zlib functions and 1 zlib variable (zlibCompileFlags) as syscalls, for them to be usable by Ndless programs. And one of those functions, deflateIni2_, takes 8 arguments. Its definition should be along the lines of:
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_SYSCALL(uint32_t, deflateInit2_, z_streamp /* strm */, uint32_t /* level */, uint32_t /* method */, uint32_t /* windowBits */ , uint32_t /* memLevel */, uint32_t /* strategy */, const char * /* version */, uint32_t /* stream_size */)
I haven't fully understood how to use _SYSCALL_ARGS yet.
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Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
« Reply #131 on: April 13, 2011, 11:55:22 am »
I'm pissed at 2.0 right now because it crashes all my ARM executables on launch like gbc4nspire and NESpire.
Complaining about an OS update that no one forced you to install dosen't help anyone.
That said, can't you just recompile them with the ndless 2 source? It works fine for me.

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Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
« Reply #132 on: April 13, 2011, 02:58:47 pm »
I think I have solved the problems in os.h that I mentioned three posts above.
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Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
« Reply #133 on: April 16, 2011, 12:59:53 am »
BrownyTCat, change your attitude please. You are being rude to those who devoted lots of time and effort on Ndless. You should be lucky Ndless even exists. Telling developers you're pissed at their new version because it doesn't work for you and yelling at nDoom developers because it doesn't run on 1.7 is certainly not going to gain you a lot of respect in this community. These people deserve more respect from you for even allowing these tools to exist.

Also, these people have a life, so it's inevitable that it will take a long while before every bug are fixed. In fact, I think nDoom project is dead due to lack of time. On a side note, it's remarks like yours that can kill these projects or slow them down in development, in some cases.

I have rated down your post, and I think you should change your manners towards us. Have respect for those who devote time and energy to develop programs for you out of their limited free time.

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Re: Ndless 2.0 for TI-Nspire enters beta stage
« Reply #134 on: May 12, 2011, 03:45:35 pm »
The links no longer work (I believe the server was reformatted or something). Would be nice to get it working again... ;)
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