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Re: 84 Plus OS 2.71MP leaked: The beginning of the end of TI-84+ programming?
« Reply #270 on: May 22, 2011, 06:44:30 pm »
They'll probably keep updating it for a while with the new features just not bothering with the bug fixing on regulars
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Re: 84 Plus OS 2.71MP leaked: The beginning of the end of TI-84+ programming?
« Reply #271 on: May 23, 2011, 01:41:13 am »
They'll probably update it just to block our new exploits. :P
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Re: 84 Plus OS 2.71MP leaked: The beginning of the end of TI-84+ programming?
« Reply #272 on: May 23, 2011, 08:34:05 am »
Ther next OS for the 84 will probably have downgrade protection and a 4096 bit key
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Re: 84 Plus OS 2.71MP leaked: The beginning of the end of TI-84+ programming?
« Reply #273 on: May 23, 2011, 08:36:13 am »
Quote from: ruler501 on May 23, 2011, 08:34:05 am
Ther next OS for the 84 will probably have downgrade protection and a 4096 bit key

They can't downgrade protect the PROM.
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Re: 84 Plus OS 2.71MP leaked: The beginning of the end of TI-84+ programming?
« Reply #274 on: May 23, 2011, 08:37:21 am »
Quote from: ruler501 on May 23, 2011, 08:34:05 am
Ther next OS for the 84 will probably have downgrade protection and a 4096 bit key
Luckily, downgrade protection is impossible because the boot code can't be changed, and changing the keys is impossible because the boot code can't be changed.
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Re: 84 Plus OS 2.71MP leaked: The beginning of the end of TI-84+ programming?
« Reply #275 on: May 23, 2011, 05:55:36 pm »
Quote from: JosJuice on May 23, 2011, 01:41:13 am
They'll probably update it just to block our new exploits. :P
Yeah I'm thinking more about that, rather than new features.
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Re: 84 Plus OS 2.71MP leaked: The beginning of the end of TI-84+ programming?
« Reply #276 on: May 24, 2011, 10:29:45 am »
We should probably talk in some type of cipher so that TI doesn't get any ideas. Maybe we could discuss the cipher in the Spam section.
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Re: 84 Plus OS 2.71MP leaked: The beginning of the end of TI-84+ programming?
« Reply #277 on: May 24, 2011, 06:13:44 pm »
big keys for encryption decryption? We could make it an AES style encryption. highest bit level possible...
*ruler goes off to think about this
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Re: 84 Plus OS 2.71MP leaked: The beginning of the end of TI-84+ programming?
« Reply #278 on: June 14, 2011, 11:20:19 pm »
Now don't wonder why so many people fell for this O.O
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Re: 84 Plus OS 2.71MP leaked: The beginning of the end of TI-84+ programming?
« Reply #279 on: June 14, 2011, 11:24:41 pm »
At least they didn't slow Output( down :P

But I don't think it's too bad. I mean we can still use assembly programs, right? Just really sucks how TI took the time to kill third-party OSes.
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Re: 84 Plus OS 2.71MP leaked: The beginning of the end of TI-84+ programming?
« Reply #280 on: June 15, 2011, 03:36:05 am »
Quote from: Deep Thought on June 14, 2011, 11:24:41 pm
At least they didn't slow Output( down :P

But I don't think it's too bad. I mean we can still use assembly programs, right? Just really sucks how TI took the time to kill third-party OSes.
I don't think their main goal was to stop all of our games - it was probably something like making sure that every allowed OS version has PTT, that we can't make fake PTT/RAM clear screens, and stuff like that.
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Re: 84 Plus OS 2.71MP leaked: The beginning of the end of TI-84+ programming?
« Reply #281 on: June 15, 2011, 03:47:24 am »
Oh, that might explain it. I always forget about PTT.

I wonder... if PTT is so important in schools, does this means schools might eventually ban the regular 83+ and 83+SE in tests eventually? (Since they do not have any PTT feature)
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Re: 84 Plus OS 2.71MP leaked: The beginning of the end of TI-84+ programming?
« Reply #282 on: June 15, 2011, 03:53:20 am »
Quote from: DJ_O on June 15, 2011, 03:47:24 am
I wonder... if PTT is so important in schools, does this means schools might eventually ban the regular 83+ and 83+SE in tests eventually? (Since they do not have any PTT feature)
I think TI cares more about PTT than schools normally would... And as you might know, TI no longer sells these calcs at all - probably because of that reason.
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Re: 84 Plus OS 2.71MP leaked: The beginning of the end of TI-84+ programming?
« Reply #283 on: June 15, 2011, 10:36:48 am »
They still produce and sell 83Ps, but not the SEs.
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I don't think their main goal was to stop all of our games - it was probably something like making sure that every allowed OS version has PTT, that we can't make fake PTT/RAM clear screens, and stuff like that.
Ah, that makes sense.
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Re: 84 Plus OS 2.71MP leaked: The beginning of the end of TI-84+ programming?
« Reply #284 on: June 15, 2011, 11:40:57 am »
Quote from: JosJuice on June 15, 2011, 03:53:20 am
Quote from: DJ_O on June 15, 2011, 03:47:24 am
I wonder... if PTT is so important in schools, does this means schools might eventually ban the regular 83+ and 83+SE in tests eventually? (Since they do not have any PTT feature)
I think TI cares more about PTT than schools normally would... And as you might know, TI no longer sells these calcs at all - probably because of that reason.
I've never had a teacher force RAM, Archive, or MEM Clear my calc, and I have never had one activate Press-To-Test either.  I don't know why it's such a big feature for TI.
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